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Message: [QUOTE="RICuse44, post: 2394193, member: 2361"] posted this elsewhere but it deserves mentioning. Tagged above they have the graduating class. The first thing that struck me is how small it is. The second thing that is interesting is 3 players were graduate transfers brought on by babers. Dino has started to win recruiting battles. But for the most part we still have freshman and sophomores- 18 and 19 yo kids- playing against juniors and seniors- 22 and 23 yo men. It's going to take time. The only 2 teams not to make a bowl in our division are us and FSU. This isn't the old big east days. This division is legit. We are still looking at another 3-4 years. Now excuse me while I go finish off my Clark griswold inspired Santa and reindeer display [/QUOTE]