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Message: [QUOTE="orange2win, post: 1756365, member: 849"] Not sure what point you are making. Andy was rated in some boards as a 0 Star and others as 1 Star. His father was an NBA pro, who knew our system inside and out. His father was also the coach of the Canadian National team. All of this support help Andy achieve amazing potential. Gillon, who is clearly talented, appears to be pulling himself up by his own bootstraps. Jumping to better programs when he has seen the chance. Credit the kid for what he has achieved so far. Moving up the ladder that way ... well, it just doesn't happen often. Still, as nice a prospect has he has been painted here, I doubt we would have offered if we were not in a self inflicted jam. [/QUOTE]