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[QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 1959884, member: 716"]
As far as assist-to-turnover and Carter-Williams (since you brought him up) - he got drafted after a sophomore year with a ratio of (wait for it)...2:1.

And Howard's 2:1 last year blows our much-praised starting guards' ratios away. (I certainly don't consider that a high bar, but people here treat Gbinije especially as the second coming.)

Anyway, I'd dispute the characterization that an assist:turnover of 2:1 isn't good. It is pretty good, though we can't take much away from the numbers of anyone whose minutes were so inconsistent and infrequent. Same deal with the shooting numbers (were were objectively terrible). The success rate was awful, but the hand-wringing about Howard's shooting was over the top. It was clear that he had good form and seemed likely that his percentage was nothing that wouldn't be fixed without more reps in the game.

Agree that it's great to have two good point guards so each has the motivation to play hard and smart.
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