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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4794049, member: 5685"] 2020 counts but if we ignore that year and games against FSU/Clemson who are way better programs, Dino's ACC record is still just 16-21 .432 W%. That isn't good enough, and we are being generous leaving out 2020/FSU/Clemson. Even if he finishes this year 3-2 he will be at 19-23 .452 W%. He really should be .500 in those games. He isn't far from being .500 but he is slightly underachieving. IMO going forward we need a HC to go .500 against everybody but FSU/Clemson. I think that is more than fair. Our OOC P5 non major programs (ND/Tennessee types don't count) should also be .500. Dino is 2-2 in those games. So he should be at season's end 23-23 against P5s. He needs to go 5-0 the rest to the way to get there. Dino hasn't done a good job as HC and even he is close to .500 against peer P5s. There is no reason to think we as a program cannot achieve that. Add in G5/FCS and we should be 7-5 easily each year. [/QUOTE]