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Message: [QUOTE="Dick_in_MI, post: 4733771, member: 225"] We are all schizophrenic about Dino; we all love him, but... On the plus side, we like him. Still, being likable is not a performance objective. A coach can be 12 kinds of serial killer and the fans and the AD will like him as long as he wins. He had that nifty 10 win season, albeit with a QB he didn't recruit. Still, I'm pretty sure that the guy who DID recruit Dungey couldn't have gotten 10 wins with him. All credit to Dino for the 10 wins and I'll discuss it again shortly. On the downside, his record is what his record is. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'd bet a lot of $$$ that our record in the ACC during the Dino years is near the bottom. If you told me it was the worst, I would not be surprised. Let's address some stuff that is often brought up: 1. "You can't win at SU". When someone says that, they are grasping at straws. P won. Marrone had two 8-win seasons in 4 years, and that was rebuilding from the Robinson disaster. Dino himself had a 10-win season and a 7-win season. Of course you can win if you are the right coach. 2. "If Dino can't do it, nobody can." That is fanboy talk. This is a business, a performance-based job, and the correct business assessment is "We are in a major conference and this guy is the highest-paid employee at the university. Does his performance merit his salary and further employment?" As an aside, if JW thinks nobody can win at SU, he is the wrong man for the AD job. 3. "We will never be Alabama." Biggest strawman in the world. Absolutely nobody believes we will ever be Alabama nor do they say it. We should be as good or better than our peer schools, however. That should be a minimum expectation. 4. "Dino is willing to change." Putting aside for the moment that he may well have been instructed to do that by his boss, changing when things aren't working is what you are SUPPOSED to do. To paraphrase Chris Rock, you don't get credit for doing what you are supposed to do. As for me, I think we will go somewhere between decent and 8-9 wins this year. Perhaps I am always optimistic pre-season, but so be it. Beat Colgate, Army, and WMU and we need only go 3-6 against P-5 opponents to get to the bowl-like event of college football these days. Perhaps the Prevagen "Jellyfish sure have Great Memories" Bowl or something like that. 4-5 against P5 foes gets us to 7-5 and Dino is likely extended. I think we can do that and maybe a bit more. Hope so for SU's sake and our sanity. [/QUOTE]

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