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[QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 4734196, member: 668"]
I've read here through the years that Dino had success at those aforementioned schools with "other coaches players" etc.  I guess I'm in that boat when it comes to those two schools since he was never there long enough to prove otherwise.  So, IMO, he doesn't have an actual track record of consistent {long(er) term} success at that level.

Jim Tressel to answer your question?  Perhaps, "success" does.  However, IMO, first and foremost of any head coach, especially at the P5 level whom is getting paid millions of dollars annually, nothing, again, IMO, trumps or comes close to trumping the most important criteria, and that is winning!

Let me ask you this.  How many coaches do you think would still exist at a P5 level school with a pier/conference record of 19-39 and still be the head coach of that same school?

On an somewhat related matter, relative to this expansion stuff going on, etc and the overall concern of where Syracuse ends up a decade or so from now when the GOR carries far less weight, etc.  What do you think other P5 conference leaders, and their powers that be, etc. think when it comes to just how "serious" Syracuse is about football when they still think it's okay/acceptable to maintain a coach with such a putrid 19-39 pier/conference record?
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