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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 876938, member: 363"] Exactly, we lost more to Vandy this year then we will lose to kids we have a shot with at PSU. PSU has always out recruited Syracuse for recruits in the Northeast, wont be much different than it ever has been. They will get top talent, always have for the most part, we don't really swim in the same water. 1 out of 20 sounds about right. PSU recruits Franklins traditional area pretty damn well, Maryland just got buried as well. Those guys had Fridge with J franklin as HCIW, and wound up with Edsall, bad move. They will get 5-6 kids every year that we have early interest in, happens every year. Kids we never really had a shot with. As I have said here for 10 years, people waiting for a top 25 recruiting class at Syracuse will be waiting for a long long time, aint going to happen, IMO [/QUOTE]