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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 2372830, member: 652"] Being independent makes the regular season pointless if you can’t win a NC. Conference titles have prestige. If you lose 2 games the season becomes a couple of rivalry games and nothing else. Conference schedules give teams other goals. Syracuse Lacrosse gave up independence for the benefit of the Big East lax schools including Notre Dame. Notre Dame fans want independence football purely out of tradition. They aren’t what they used to be. They have a 5 game conference schedule. They can spin whatever they want about ACC patches or logos but the ACC controls 5 games on their schedule each year. [/QUOTE]