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Message: [QUOTE="K Otto XLIV, post: 1491741"] I think it is hard to take a lot away from the LSU game, just like it was hard to take much from the Rhode Island game. The biggest takeaway is that we can be competitive vs a good team. That wasn't the case in Shafer's first 18 games (before the injuries hit). I don't think we can really evaluate the O or D because of the talent gap with LSU. The Wake game was a better indicator. The CMu game on the D side only as well. There are a lot of reasons to be optimistic but we really don't know what we have yet. I think 8-4 is very realistic but I also wouldn't be surprised if we end up 4-8. We will know a lot more after USF. [/QUOTE]