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Message: [QUOTE="Col. Bleep, post: 3086427, member: 1023"] I think Gottlieb is pretty knowledgable and there are other guys FAR worse who have FAR less knowledge. He's just doing the schtick that he thinks works for him. No one is going to defend his credit card business. And he's owned it. Is that any worse than what plenty of other players have done? Like Michael "Sticky Fingers" Carter shopping style? Or Scoop using another student's ID to order food? Or Devo's antics? Or the star SU player I won't name who stole someone's stereo system back in the day? He was found out when the victim actually saw him listening to it. Nothing ever happened to the player. And there are others. The credit card issue is an easy club to hit Gottlieb with. But it seems like very selective. [/QUOTE]