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[QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 628386, member: 622"] I believe what most fans take issue with FSU and Clemson fans is that they, in general, keep downplaying everyone else while their own schools essentially suck (in terms of NC viability). You can't have it both ways, screaming, "we're the elites, bow to our greatness" and complain that nobody is pulling their own weight simply because your own school is failing. Overall, the ACC has not been bad, it's just that nobody has been elite. Many people forget that Syracuse carried the Big East when Miami flopped (violations - sound familiar?), VATech was still learning how to play, WVU was nobody, and Pitt was down. VATech just did the same for the ACC. Clemson carried the ACC pre-FSU, then FSU carried the ACC for a dozen or so years. Miami has been worthless. BC had a couple good years. It's cyclical. The good thing is that the ACC is on the verge of being the deepest of conferences, especially as more and more football critics see that the SEC is not as strong top to bottom as they pretend. [/QUOTE]
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