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Message: [QUOTE="orange2win, post: 202232, member: 849"] No denying the 1989 team had the talent with six NBA pros (Douglas, Thompson, Coleman, Owens, Johnson, Manning), listed in order of minutes played, but they were in many ways a bust. Teams on either side of them (86, 87, 90 and 91) won the league and the 88 team won the BE tourney. The 89 team got to the E8 in the NCAA's and that's it. They finished with a record of 30-8. They were not a great team, based on performance. Tougher competition arguments as the explanation are bogus in my view. I would argue that the 2012 team has a much better coach and that is the biggest factor. JB is best in the country today and he is showing it this year. Don't get me started, but back in 89, JB stunk and that was the root of the 89 team's under achievment. [/QUOTE]