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[QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 340378, member: 363"]
Wow, doesn't anyone tire of these type of debates, we have stunk for almost 13 years, minus 2 seasons. In addition, the facilities were/ are probably the worst of any BCS program, that really isn't debateable. It has had a huge impact on the program and will continue until we upgrade a few real soar spots. That said, we are where who we are, have to keep pushing forward, more wins, more money, more facilities. At this point, we think we have to see if marrone can get us back, jury still out, 2 seaosn with promise, 1 that was a disaster. This season will speak volumes.
 
Hey I like Casullo, know him, think he is a better coach than given credit for but he did not fit the mold with Marrone at all. That is my opinion. Bad hire by Doug and Bob dug his own grave here because of his short temper and yes loose lips. he is who he is. I believe Casullu's outlook to be accurate when he came here, how else do you suck that bad, poor coaching, poor recruiting, poor facilities equals a  program with marginal talent. Sure we had a few guys but zero depth. Which is why I said, Doug did a good job for 2 years bad job 1.  We need more athletes, period, we needed more 12 years ago, need more today.  GROB got a few decent kids
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