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Message: [QUOTE="Full_Rebar, post: 1080718, member: 3530"] I agree that it's an excuse and it's annoying to hear it time and time again. I've pleaded with many folks to come out and support the students win or lose, but many people want more-especially when the team isn't winning big. My problem with not trying to market football is that not having the fan support impacts recruiting. We know recruiting is what wins games so not doing anything isn't going to get football back to 10-win seasons. Since the on-field performance isn't there yet, other things need to be done. Now I like the notion of Next Fan Up and deals for teachers, etc. I think more can be done to convince the casual fan. When someone from the zoo or library shows up at my kid's school, it makes them want to go there. I see a direct impact for minor-league sports (which is what SU sports are) when there is community involvement. [/QUOTE]