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Message: [QUOTE="kyleslamb, post: 415551, member: 895"] I think you're on to something with UNC and Virginia using these events to leverage Notre Dame. Frankly, I think it might be their best play because that's the only way they'll get Notre Dame to join. The ACC would otherwise have no choice of doing that. The interesting thing about Penn State rumors is simply that Penn State was most active within the Big Ten of pushing for Maryland and Rutgers. So I doubt that Penn State leaves now that it appears it got what it wanted. I think that's another reason Delany acted when he did. Notre Dame actually had been trying to recruit Penn State from my understanding, so I think Delany decided now was the time to stop that before it got any further. Notre Dame needs to be making friends with Florida State and Clemson, though. If the Big 12 decides to go after them, they might be the key to keeping the ACC intact. If they leave, it will be a bloodbath scramble. [/QUOTE]