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Message: [QUOTE="Dick_in_MI, post: 3155138, member: 225"] Yeah OK but Marrone followed GROB, who was a trainwreck of biblical proportions with a 5-37 record and Doug won 4,8,5,and 8 with two bowls over the next four seasons. And unlike Dino, he turned things around remarkably without an indoor practice facility or Dome improvements to sell to recruits. Dino’s ten win season rightfully buys him a fair amount of get out of jail cards. Still, this season is trending toward a bad, maybe very bad record. He has had four years and that should include obvious improvement at this point. 4 wins, 4 wins, 10 wins, 4 (or 3) likely wins doesn't exactly equal a great trend. Under no circumstances should anyone even consider the idea of letting Dino go this year. Not going to happen, nor should it. Again, 10 wins was 10 wins and at SU that should count for a lot. But let's face facts; football at SU (along with basketball) isn't really about the academic mission of the University and has not been for a long time. Rather, is the focus of SU's Entertainment Division to use an analogy. As such, Dino is a highly paid person in a job where results count and are expected. As the old saying goes: "the world doesn't want to hear about the labor pains, it just wants to see the baby." Unless the season ends differently than it is trending, Wildhack needs to have a talk about what changes might be made during the off-season and what metrics Dino needs to hit next year. That is simply Executive 101. Maybe Wildhack is comfortable with the ROI they have made in football, maybe he's not. That's not for us to say. I like Dino a lot but truthfully there are a lot more holes in his program than I would have expected in Year 4. I am always hopeful but at this point I don't see a real turnaround this year. If it does happen, that is great. Otherwise, I really hope he is up to the task of fixing things in Year 5. [/QUOTE]

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