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Message: [QUOTE="elimunelson, post: 4975827, member: 615"] I wouldn't personally hold the dumpster fire that Belichick created for this year on Billy O'Brien. I'd look at what he did at Penn St vs the NFL experience. I mean if we go on that metric, we would be laughing at USC hiring Pete Carroll after detonating the NE Patriots in 4 quick years. Some guys are college and some are NFL. Some can be both too as Carroll has evolved to some extent. I think O'Brien is trying to build a Doug Marrone like operation with the Eagles. All the same catch phrases. He will have better luck b/c BC has better luck landing the bigger OL fish out the prep schools and catholic network. I still think the Fran model is better for SU and I think this model is better for BC. Fran can get guys into Syracuse that Billy O'Brien won't get into BC. It's a contrast in styles and i'm curious who wins out. My bet is Syracuse because I think talent is higher in CNY for once. [/QUOTE]