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Message: [QUOTE="dasher, post: 2826502, member: 6061"] Well, let's see. Hunter had a 224 wins 166 losses. Tiant had 229 wins 172 losses seems the same to me Hunter had a career era of 3.26 Tiant had a career era of 3.30 seems the same to me Hunter had 3449.1 innings Tiant had 3486.1 innings seems the same to me Hunter had a carreer k's of 2012 and career walks of 954 Tiant had 2416 k's and 1104 walks seems the same to me Hunter gave up 374 HR's Tiant gave up 346 Seems the same to me Hunter did we 20 5 times tiant won 20 4 times wow. Hunter had 181 complete games Tiant had 187 Seems the same to me Hunter pitched for better teams. When given the chance, Tiant was great in big games. He shut out the big red machine in the '75 world series. As I said, their stats are the same. [/QUOTE]