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Message: [QUOTE="FrancoPizza, post: 2985727, member: 5195"] Scoop and Rick were easily top 50 in at least a couple different ranking magazines and Wes was on the All-Rookie team at Iowa State. Those guys were high major talents. Are you disputing that? We're going off on a tangent if we're getting caught up in the rankings - I forgot that those numbers were a bit inconsistent. I just remember the Rick, Scoop class was very highly rated collectively. The larger theme is not to compare our recruiting to FF teams. Those teams don't run our god-awful systems. Or are you validating my point - that other systems and coaches can get better results with similar talent? All is well then? What is your point exactly now? [/QUOTE]