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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 23959"] leave academic pursuits behind?????that part i don't get??as for business, yes it IS busness, maybe they can consult with wharton on this .as for ivy league membership, the league was formed in 1954,not to be confused with the ivies relationship prior to that.chek out collge football data warehouse to see who penn played up to 1956.the academic ivies will remain in place and is not subject to sporting conferences. it is on a much more grander scale---hence no academic pursuits left behind [/QUOTE]