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Message: [QUOTE="LAOrange, post: 1157075, member: 160"] Firing should never come as a surprise. You give an employee a specific set of objectives. Warn them when they are not being reached. Warn them again if necessary and then let them know concisely and clearly, if you do this again... you're toast. I may have been disappointed but I was certain they were given appropriate warning. BTW 90% turn around in a consistent progressive disciplinary system. [/QUOTE]