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[QUOTE="billsin01, post: 1517013, member: 837"]
I'm glad someone pointed out the straw man issue here. I absolutely fall into the category of frustrated by what I feel is rather poor in-game coaching but I don't really know that they have to fire Shafer.

But the other problem I have with this argument is this: So then what is the future of Syracuse football? If there aren't any coaches out there who can make this more than an occasionally competitive football program with grandiose dreams of an 8-5 season every now and again (and I'm not entirely sold Shafer is even headed in that direction), then what's the point of following the program? Might as well just hire Joe Adam as the head coach and save some coin.

Bottom line is that you have a new AD (and new ADs usually want their own guy) and a program that has not shown much in three years post-DM. Firing a guy and hiring a new coach is far from a guaranteed fix, but I see no evidence to suggest that this university couldn't improve on the guy leading the program. Does Shafer need to be fired? Probably not. But is there a distinct possibility that we have seen close to the best he has to offer? I would say yes and I would say that's not a terribly great feeling.
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