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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 1517344, member: 837"] I don't know -- I"m not knocking that point but a 7-win or 8-win season at this point is fine but largely irrelevant when you consider three wins are likely gimmes and three more will be against teams you should beat within conference play. I'd probably be OK with that too but I think you've really got to strive for winning 9 or 10 on a fairly regular basis. It seems to me anything less than that is fine in terms of general success but doesn't really energize a program. Now is 9 or 10 on a regular basis possible with the current setup in college football? I"m not sure. But I do know that you're not getting a city fired up about winning 7 or 8 every year. [/QUOTE]