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Message: [QUOTE="Brooky03, post: 5650044, member: 8594"] I don’t know what you want me to acknowledge. Honestly, I don’t. This thread wanted to give Hurley credit, in a roundabout way, for being a coach who touts hard work and doing things harder and faster and stronger, yada, yada. Aside from him being a salesman who likes to put on a show, I merely pointed out that that style of coaching is not inherently valuable, which I don’t consider a controversial opinion. What that does not mean is that a coach who is supposedly ‘old school’ like that is a good or bad coach. The idea that coach so-and-so is a hard butt who demands accountability and coach so-and-so is successful, therefore being a hard butt is admirable and the reason for coach so-and-so’s success (so should be emulated) is the idea I’m arguing against because I don’t think the logic follows. [/QUOTE]