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Message: [QUOTE="senorpalmer, post: 141569, member: 234"] The ACC, pre-expansion, saw some great times, and I'm sure it will again. I'd be hesitant to make any prediction about it becoming a perennial juggernaut though, I mean the football league was supposed to become just that with the addition of Miami and VTech, and we've seen how that's worked out 8 years into their membership. I'm confident that SU hoops will remain strong; but not quite so confident that the other 70% or so of the league is going to up its game over an extended period. [/QUOTE]