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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1730088, member: 2585"] I'm avoiding putting an exact measurement on it because it's not black or white. But I think if you talked to any fan of any top tier program - if you've got top 5 recruiting classes year after year - and you're not making the FF 2 out of 3 years, your coach is underachieving. That's the nature of the beast. We don't think we're going to the FF every year - because the talent of our recruiting classes isn't in the top 5 most years. Different levels, different expectations. [/QUOTE]