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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1730881, member: 2585"] You should probably go back and read where I said I'm not putting actual numbers to it - as its not black and white, it's kinda like porn "I know it when I see it"... (I didn't want to get into a statistical analysis type debate because it's inconclusive.) Just making the tourney with the talent he's had is way below the baseline, especially in the SEC. This started as a way of saying that if you get the best players every year you can't lean on talent being the reason you don't make a FF. If you have the very best talent, 5-6 NBA players - the line you need to reach to make good on that talent it way, way out from where it is for the other 300+ schools. Expectations are a b*#%+. Unless luck is a bigger part of the overall equation, not making a FF is the result of a talent deficit, a coaching deficit or a bit of both. If you have the best talent? Is it not fair to question the coaching? [/QUOTE]