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Message: [QUOTE="Doc5120, post: 2756641, member: 3594"] JB has never said anyth Ok, from 80 or 87 to current day, hoops has still been more successful. And yes, I've heard of the Clemson and VA Tech wins. I was there. SU football has been difficult to watch, but I'm at every home game and live and die with them. I support them and they are coming back. Over the course of time, SU bball has been more successful. That is a fact. I'm using numbers to back up my points. You're getting upset because what I'm staying is true and it doesn't fit your argument. We clearly we differ on this viewpoint, which is fine, but we want the same thing; a successful football school. And I think we're getting back there. [/QUOTE]