Historical Guard Net Points

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Pat, (“20 Plus”) requested that I assemble some “net points” numbers on SU backcourts. I’ve already got the numbers dating back to 1980-81. There are numbers before that available on Orangehoops:

Syracuse Orange Basketball Season Records

All-Time Season Won/Loss record for Syracuse University Basketball Orange along with the team's final AP ranking, and the head coach. Also includes their conference record for the Big East and ACC seasons. The Syracuse Orange were formerly known as the Syracuse Orangemen.

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But they don’t have minutes played until 1980-81 and I like to look at things per 40 minutes. I’ll limit it to guards who have averaged 10 minutes per game. I went by the list of starting fives in the Media Guide, (which somehow lists Wendell Alexis as a guard in 1985-86), my memory, logic and the rebounding and assists stats to categorize who could be considered primarily a guard for each season.

It should be noted that the “Net Points” formula is just an attempt to summarize what’s in a box score. It doesn’t account for things not measured in the box score, such as sneaker-to-sneakier defense, knowing where you are supposed to be and what you are supposed to be doing in JB’s zone, getting loose balls, (which I think should be a stat), being a good teammate, a leader, etc. etc. I find that the most statistically productive players will tend to be the best in these areas, too. But I’ve never claimed that “net points” is a means by itself in evaluating players. It just adds up the numbers and is worth looking at.

Glossary: M= minutes per game, (the rest is per 40 minutes), P= points, R= rebounds A= assists, S= steals, B= blocks, MFG = missed field goals, MFT = miss free throws, TO = turnovers, PF = personal fouls.
NP: “net points”, (P+R+A+S+B) – (MFG+MFT+TO+PF) OE: “offensive efficiency” P-(MFG+MFT)
FG = “floor game” (R+A+S+B) – (TO+PF) or NP-OE.

1980-81
Marty Headd 29.4m 16.2p 2.6r 2.5a 1.3s 0.0b 22.6+ 5.6mfg 0.4mft 2.1to 2.9pf 11.0- = NP: 11.6 OE: 10.2 FG: 1.4
Eddie Moss 32.8m 7.7p 2.8a 6.6a 3.0s 0.3b 20.4+ 2.2mfg 0.8mft 3.9to 3.9pf 10.8- = NP: 9.6 OE: 4.7 FG: 4.9
Gene Waldron 12.9m 13.1p 2.6r 3.9a 2.7s 0.7b 23.0+ 6.2mfg 1.0mft 5.7to 5.9pf 18.8- = NP: 4.2 OE: 5.9 FG: 0.7

1981-82
Erich Santifer 33.8m 20.1p 6.6r 2.2a 1.7s 0.3b 30.9+ 6.6mfg 1.2mft 3.8 to 2.8pf 14.4- = NP: 16.5 OE: 12.3 FG: 4.2
Gene Waldron 29.8m 10.9p 3.4r 5.2a 2.7s 0.0b 22.2+ 4.7mfg 1.2mft 2.9pf 4.4pf 13.2- = NP: 9.0 OE: 5.0 FG: 4.0
Sonny Spera 13.0m 10.2p 3.0r 3.2a 10.3s 0.2b 17.9+ 4.0mfg 1.3mft 4.9to 5.8pf 16.0- = NP 1.9 OE: 4.9: FG -1.9

1982-83
Erich Santifer 31.5m 22.7p 6.3r 4.2a 1.9s 0.2b 35.3+ 6.6mfg 1.4mft 3.3to 3.0pf 14.3- =
21.0np 15.2oe 5.8fg
Gene Waldron 28.0m 13.3p 3.1r 6.2a 2.7s 0.2b 25.5+ 4.7mfg 1.0mft 4.1to 4.6pf 14.4- =
11.1np 7.6oe 3.5fg
Sonny Spera 12.0m 9.6p 3.1r 4.4a 1.3s 0.4b 18.8+ 3.1mfg 0.6mft 3.2to 4.7pf 11.6- =
7.2np 5.9oe 1.3fg

1983-84
Gene Waldron 26.8m 13.7p 3.3r 5.8a 1.6s 0.0b 24.4+ 6.1mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 3.8pf 14.9- =
9.5np 6.2oe 3.3fg
Pearl Washington 34.0m 16.9p 3.1r 7.3a 2.7s 0.1b 30.1+ 5.7mfg 1.7mft 4.1to 4.0pf 15.5- = 14.6np 9.5oe 5.1fg
Greg Monroe 15.3m 7.7p 3.1r 5.8a 0.8s 0.1b 17.5+ 4.3mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 2.3pf 8.9- =
8.6np 2.9oe 5.7fg

1984-85
Michael Brown 23.4m 14.3p 3.9r 2.3a 1.4s 0.2b 22.1+ 6.0mfg 0.2mft 2.8to 3.1pf 12.1- =
10.0NP 8.1OE 1.9FG
Pearl Washington 34.1m 18.0p 3.4r 7.1a 2.3s 0.1b 30.9+ 6.4mfg 1.4mft 5.3to 3.0pf 16.1- = 14.8NP 10.2OE 4.6FG
Greg Monroe 21.4m 7.6p 2.0r 5.2a 1.4s 0.1b 16.3+ 4.1mfg 0.4mft 2.0to 1.5pf 8.0- =
8.3NP 3.1OE 5.2FG

1985-86
Rafael Addison 31.6m 18.9p 7.1r 5.2a 1.6s 0.6b 33.4+ 7.1mfg 0.7mft 2.8to 2.7pf 13.3- =
20.1NP 11.1OE 9.0FG
Pearl Washington 32.2m 21.5p 3.1r 9.7a 3.2s 0.0b 37.5+ 7.3mfg 1.8mft 4.1to 3.4pf 16.6- = 20.9NP 12.4OE 8.5FG
Michael Brown 17.9m 17.2p 5.0r 1.9a 1.2s 0.3b 25.6+ 7.6mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 5.3pf 15.9- =
9.7NP 8.7OE 1.0FG
Greg Monroe 16.4m 11.1p 3.3r 6.8a 1.9s 0.2b 23.3+ 5.1mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 1.1pf 9.3- =
14.0NP 5.0OE 9.0FG
Sherman Douglas 11.4m 19.0p 4.3r 7.4a 4.3s 0.7b 35.7+ 4.7mfg 1.7mft 4.3to 4.3pf 15.0- = 20.7NP 12.6OE 8.1FG

1986-87
Sherman Douglas 32.6m 21.3p 3.1r 9.3a 2.1s 0.2b 36.0+ 7.0mfg 1.7mft 3.9to 2.3pf 14.9- = 21.1NP 12.6OE 8.5FG
Greg Monroe 31.0m 16.6p 3.2r 5.2a 1.5s 0.0b 25.0+ 6.4mfg 0.6mft 1.8to 1.7pf 10.5- =
14.5NP 9.6OE 4.9FG
Stevie Thompson 12.2m 16.6p 6.0r 2.4a 0.6s 1.9b 27.5+ 7.2mfg 3.4mft 3.8to 4.0pf 18.4- =
9.1NP 6.0OE 3.1FG

1987-88
Sherman Douglas 34.1m 18.8p 2.5r 9.6a 2.3s 0.0b 33.2+ 6.9mfg 1.5mft 3.9to 1.8pf 14.1- = 19.1NP 10.4OE 8.7FG
Stevie Thompson 30.6m 18.4p 6.4r 2.5a 1.5s 0.4b 29.2+ 5.7mfg 2.6mft 1.8to 3.1pf 13.2- = 16.0NP 10.1OE 5.9FG
Matt Roe 24.3m 15.2p 4.0r 3.2a 0.8s 0.1b 23.3+ 7.0mfg 0.4mft 1.6to 3.2pf 12.2- =
11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Earl Duncan 18.3m 14.0p 3.1r 7.0a 1.6s 0.2b 25.9+ 6.4mfg 1.3mft 3.1to 3.1pf 13.9- =
12.0NP 6.3OE 5.7FG

1988-89
Sherman Douglas 35.2m 20.7p 2.8r 9.7a 2.1s 0.0b 35.3+ 6.8mfg 1.9mft 4.2to 2.1pf 15.0- = 20.3NP 12.0OE 8.3FG
Stevie Thompson 33.1m 21.7p 6.0r 2.2a 2.4s 0.5b 32.8+ 5.3mfg 2.7mft 2.6to 2.3pf 12.9- = 19.9NP 13.7OE 6.2FG
Matt Roe 25.8m 17.1p 3.6r 2.5a 1.4s 0.0b 24.6+ 6.2mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.4pf 12.6- =
12.0NP 10.0OE 2.0FG
Dave Johnson 14.6m 11.5p 5.5r 2.7a 1.3s 0.3b 21.3+ 5.2mfg 2.4mft 1.8to 5.2pf 14.6- =
6.7NP 3.9OE 2.8FG

1989-90
Stevie Thompson 34.6m 20.6p 6.0r 3.5a 1.7s 0.2b +32.0 8.0mfg 3.5mft 2.8to 2.1pf -16.4 = 15.6NP 9.1OE 6.5FG
Michael Edwards 24.0m 10.5p 1.8r 8.5a 1.5s 0.1b +22.4 5.3mfg 0.4mft 4.1to 3.1pf -12.9 =
9.5NP 4.8OE 4.7FG
Dave Johnson 18.0m 14.6p 5.2r 2.4a 1.0s 0.4b +23.6 8.2mfg 2.0mft 1.7to 3.9pf -15.8=
7.8NP 4.4OE 3.4FG
Mike Hopkins 8.4m 13.7p 5.7r 6.2a 1.0s 0.0b +26.6 3.8mfg 1.2mft 3.4to 7.4pf -15.8 =
10.8NP 8.7OE 2.1FG

1990-91
Adrian Autry 33.2m 11.7p 3.1r 6.4a 2.4s 0.2b +23.8 6.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 4.0pf -15.4 =
8.4NP 4.6OE 3.8FG
Michael Edwards 26.2m 12.0p 2.3r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b +19.5 7.0mfg 0.6mft 3.3to 2.1pf -13.0 =
6.5NP 4.4OE 2.1FG
Mike Hopkins 13.3m 9.9p 5.8r 4.2a 1.2s 0.4b +21.5 3.5mfg 1.4mft 3.5to 8.3pf -16.7 =
4.8NP 5.0OE -0.2FG

1991-92
Adrian Autry 32.7m 13.5p 5.0r 4.9a 1.9s 0.2b +25.5 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.0to 3.8pf -16.8 =
8.7NP 4.5OE 4.2FG
Michael Hopkins 26.9m 9.7p 5.8r 3.4a 2.2s 0.3b +21.4 3.8mfg 1.6mft 2.0to 5.6pf -13.0 =
8.4NP 4.3OE 4.1FG
Michael Edwards 13.6m 13.3p 2.9r 3.6a 1.1s 0.0b +20.9 9.3mfg 0.7mft 2.9to 1.6pf -14.5 = 6.4NP 3.3OE 3.1FG
Anthony Harris 12.2m 11.5p 2.9r 3.5a 0.7s 0.7b +19.3 7.3mfg 0.2mft 3.8to 4.4pf -15.7 =
3.6NP 4.0OE -0.4FG

1992-93
Adrian Autry 31.8m 17.2p 4.6r 7.0a 2.5s 0.2b +31.5 8.0mfg 0.9mft 4.4to 3.6pf -16.9 =
14.6NP 8.3OE 6.3FG
Mike Hopkins 28.2m 13.1p 5.2r 3.1a 2.1s 0.5b +24.0 5.7mfg 1.1mft 3.1to 3.7pf -13.6 =
10.4NP 6.3OE 4.1FG

1993-94
Adrian Autry 35.7m 18.7p 5.4r 6.8a 1.8s 0.4b +33.1 8.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 2.9pf -16.3 =
16.8NP 9.6OE 7.2FG
Lawrence Moten 34.8m 24.6p 5.2r 2.5a 2.3s 0.7b +35.3 9.4mfg 1.7mft 2.1to 2.5pf -15.7 = 19.6NP 13.5OE 6.1FG
Lazarus Sims 9.7m 5.4p 4.6r 8.0a 0.2s 2.2b +20.4 5.6mfg 0.5mft 4.1to 2.5pf -12.7= 7.7NP
-0.7OE 8.4FG

1994-95
Lawrence Moten 35.3m 22.2p 4.7r 3.7a 2.1s 0.3b +33.0 9.3mfg 1.5mft 3.4to 2.2pf -16.4 = 16.6NP 11.4OE 5.2FG
Michael Lloyd 31.9m 15.7p 4.0r 6.5a 2.5s 0.1b +28.8 6.7mfg 2.0mft 3.8to 3.0pf -15.5 =
13.3NP 7.0OE 6.3FG
Lazarus Sims 14.7m 8.1p 3.9r 7.1a 2.4s 0.1b +21.6 2.8mfg 0.9mft 3.4to 4.2pf -11.3 =
10.3NP 4.4OE 5.9FG

1995-96
Lazarus Sims 35.6m 7.1p 4.1r 8.3a 1.6s 0.1b +21.2 2.9mfg 0.7mft 3.6to 2.2pf -9.4 =
11.8NP 3.5OE 8.3FG
Jason Cipolla 23.5m 13.1p 3.3r 2.3a 1.7s 0.2b +20.6 7.6mfg 0.8mft 2.1to 2.3pf -12.8 =
7.8NP 4.7OE 3.1FG
Marius Janulis 20.2m 12.1p 4.2r 2.7a 1.4s 0.1b +20.5 4.5mfg 0.4mft 2.5to 4.8pf -12.2 =
8.3NP 7.2OE 1.1FG

1996-97
Jason Hart 35.7m 10.8p 4.0r 6.4a 3.2s 0.1b +24.5 6.5mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 3.0pf -13.9 =
10.6NP 3.4OE 7.2FG
Marius Janulis 26.5m 14.1p 5.7r 2.5a 0.9s0.0b +23.2 6.4mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 4.2pf -13.4 =
9.8NP 7.1OE 2.7FG
Rock Lloyd 11.8m 15.4p 6.6r 2.0a 2.2s 0.1b +26.3 8.4mfg 3.0mft 4.1to 3.9pf -19.4 =
6.9NP 4.0OE 2.9FG

1997-98
Jason Hart 34.2m 11.9p 4.2r 5.8a 2.6s 0.1b +24.6 6.9mfg 1.4mft 4.1to 3.3pf -15.7 =
8.9NP 3.6OE 5.3FG
Marius Janulis 32.5m 11.8p 3.9r 2.5a 1.6s 0.1b +19.9 5.8mfg 0.2mft 2.0to 3.2pf -11.2 =
8.7NP 5.8OE 2.9FG

1998-99
Jason Hart 32.4m 17.2p 3.7r 5.4a 3.8s 0.2b +30.3 9.0mfg 0.9mft 3.9to 3.7pf -17.5 =
12.8NP 7.3OE 5.5FG
Alan Griffin 27.2m 11.7p 4.0r 4.6a 0.7s 0.6b +21.6 6.2mfg 1.0mft 3.2to 3.2pf -13.6 =
8.0NP 4.5OE 3.5FG
Tony Bland 15.7m 11.3p 3.5r 4.1a 2.2s 0.6b +21.7 5.7mfg 1.3mft 3.7to 2.8pf -13.5 =
8.2NP 4.3OE 3.9FG

1999-00
Jason Hart 33.8m 14.1p 3.5r 7.7a 2.2s 0.1b +27.6 6.6mfg 1.3mft 4.1to 2.9pf -14.9 =
12.7NP 6.2OE 6.5FG
Tony Bland 20.9m 12.8p 3.1r 3.3a 2.0s 0.6b +21.8 6.5mfg 0.7mft 2.2to 2.3pf -11.7 =
10.1NP 5.6OE 4.5FG
DeShaun Williams 16.0m 15.7p 3.8r 4.2a 2.8s 0.2b +26.7 7.4mfg 0.4mft 3.3to 3.8pf -14.9 = 11.8NP 7.9OE 3.9FG
Alan Griffin 10.7m 11.3p 4.1r 6.5a 1.8s 0.1b +23.8 5.6mfg 0.8mft 2.5to 4.2pf -13.1 =
10.7NP 4.9OE 5.8FG

2000-01
Alan Griffin 36.7m 11.8p 3.6r 7.1a 2.1s 0.2b +24.8 6.2mfg 1.4mft 3.1to 2.3pf -13.0 =
11.8NP 4.2OE 7.6FG
DeShaun Williams 32.8m 15.1p 3.5r 4.2a 2.4s 0.4b +25.6 9.0mfg 0.7mft 3.1to 3.6pf -16.4=
9.2NP 4.4OE 4.8FG

2001-02
DeShaun Williams 35.0m 18.2p 4.0r 4.7a 2.4s 0.3b +29.6 10.4mfg 1.2mft 4.5to 2.8pf -18.9 = 10.7NP 6.6OE 4.1FG
James Thues 31.3m 7.2p 3.7r 6.3a 3.6s 0.4b +21.2 3.5mfg 1.0mft 3.1to 2.4pf -10.0 =
11.2NP 2.7OE 8.5FG

2002-03
Gerry McNamara 35.3m 15.1p 2.6r 5.0a 2.5s 0.1b +25.3 7.1mfg 0.3mft 2.8to 2.2pf -12.4 = 12.9NP 7.7OE 5.2FG
Kueth Duany 27.0m 16.3p 5.4r 3.0a 1.5s 0.8b +27.0 7.2mfg 1.6mft 2.4to 3.2pf -14.4 =
12.6NP 7.5OE 5.1FG
Billy Edelin 23.2m 15.6p 5.9r 4.4a 1.8s 0.2b +27.9 5.0mfg 1.7mft 4.0to 1.7pf -12.7 =
15.5NP 8.9OE 6.6FG

2003-04
Gerry McNamara 36.2m 19.0p 2.9r 4.2a 1.9s 0.0b 28.0+ 8.7mfg 0.6mft 2.8to 2.3pf 14.4- = 13.6NP 9.7OE 3.9FG
Billy Edelin 33.1m 16.7p 5.1r 6.3a 1.6s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 2.1pf 12.9- =
16.9NP 8.3OE 8.6FG

2004-05
Gerry McNamara 35.6m 17.8p 2.6r 5.6a 2.1s 0.1b 28.2+ 9.0mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 2.1pf 14.9- = 13.3NP 8.3OE 5.0FG
Josh Pace 33.3m 13.0p 6.0r 4.5a 1.8s 0.5b 25.8+ 4.5mfg 0.8mft 2.4to 1.9pf 9.6- =
16.2NP 7.7OE 8.5FG
Louis McCroskey 19.9m 11.2p 5.9r 2.4a 1.7s 0.1b 21.3+ 6.9mfg 1.2mft 2.4to 2.7pf 13.2- = 8.1NP 3.1OE 5.0FG
Billy Edelin 15.7m 10.2p 3.2r 4.5a 2.0s 0.1b 20.0+ 4.2mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 2.0pf 10.6- =
9.4NP 5.1OE 4.3FG

2005-06
Gerry McNamara 35.2m 18.2p 3.1r 6.7a 2.1s 0.1b 30.2+ 10.3mfg, 0.4mft 3.8to 1.5pf 16.0- = 14.2NP 7.5OE 6.7FG
Eric Devendorf 27.1m 18.1p 3.6r 3.5a 1.5s 0.6b 27.3+ 8.3mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.9pf 16.2- =
11.1NP 9.2OE 1.9FG
Josh Wright 12.5m 13.4p 4.2r 5.1a 2.8s 0.0b 25.5+ 5.5mfg 2.6mft 4.4to 2.6pf 15.1- =
10.4NP 5.3OE 5.1FG

2006-07
Eric Devendorf 30.9m 19.1p 3.5r 5.4a 1.6s 0.4b 30.0+ 9.1mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 17.6- =
12.4NP 8.9OE 3.5FG
Josh Wright 24.1m 11.0p 3.2r 6.3a 1.9s 0.0b 22.4+ 4.5mfg 1.5mft 4.2to 2.4pf 12.6- =
9.8NP 5.0OE 4.8FG
Andy Rautins 18.5m 13.6p 3.7r 2.8a 2.4s 0.3b 22.8+ 7.7mfg 0.4mft 2.5to 3.3pf 13.9- =
8.9NP 5.5OE 3.4FG

2007-08
Jonny Flynn 35.5m 17.6p 3.0r 6.0a 1.7s 0.2b 28.5+ 7.2mfg 1.0mft 3.1to 1.6pf 12.9- =
15.6NP 9.4OE 6.2FG
Eric Devendorf 34.2m 19.9p 3.0r 4.6a 2.0s 0.5b 30.0+ 8.2mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 16.7- =
13.3NP 10.6OE 2.7FG
Scoop Jardine 19.6m 11.2p 3.1r 5.1a 2.4s 0.2b 22.0+ 5.0mfg 0.4mft 3.7to 3.9pf 13.0- =
9.0NP 5.8OE 3.2FG

2008-09
Jonny Flynn 37.3m 18.7p 2.9r 7.2a 1.5s 0.2b 30.5+ 7.2mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 1.6pf 13.6- =
16.7NP 10.1 OE 6.6FG
Eric Devendorf 33.9m 18.5p 2.3r 3.5a 1.2s 0.4b 25.9+ 7.9mfg 0.8mft 3.5to 2.7pf 14.9- =
11.0NP 9.8OE 1.2FG
Andy Rautins 28.6m 14.6p 4.6r 4.2a 2.0s 0.2b 25.6+ 7.9mfg 0.5mft 2.8to 2.8pf 14.0- =
11.6NP 6.2OE 5.4FG

2009-10
Andy Rautins 32.5m 14.9p 4.2r 6.0a 2.4s 0.3b 27.8+ 5.8mfg 0.5mft 3.4to 2.7pf 12.4- =
15.4NP 8.6OE 6.8FG
Brandon Triche 21.3m 15.2p 3.4r 5.3a 1.6s 0.1b 25.6+ 5.4mfg 1.6mft 3.8to 2.4pf 13.2- =
12.4NP 8.2OE 4.2FG
Scoop Jardine 22.2m 16.3p 3.5r 7.8a 2.1s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 1.2mft 3.4to 2.6pf 13.3- =
16.5NP 9.0OE 7.5FG

2010-11
Scoop Jardine 32.1m 15.6p 2.7r 7.3a 2.0s 0.2b 27.8+ 7.7mfg 1.3mft 3.6to 2.2pf 14.8- =
13.0NP 6.6OE 6.4FG
Brandon Triche 28.8m 15.5p 3.7r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b 24.4+ 7.1mfg 0.6mft 2.9to 2.7pf 13.3- =
11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Dion Waiters 16.3m 16.1p 3.8r 3.6a 2.7s 0.3b 26.5+ 8.1mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 3.3pf 14.2- =
12.3NP 7.4OE 4.9FG

2011-12
Scoop Jardine 25.2m 14.1p 3.7r 7.8a 2.1s 0.2b = 27.9+ 6.0mfg 1.3mft 3.6to 1.7pf = 12.6- = 15.3NP 6.8OE 8.5FG
Dion Waiters 24.1m 21.0p 3.8r 4.1a 3.0s 0.5b = 32.4+ 8.4mfg 1.4mft 2.2to 3.1pf = 15.1- = 17.3NP 11.2OE 6.1FG
Brandon Triche 22.5m 16.6p 4.4r 4.6a 1.8s 0.2b = 27.6+ 8.0mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.4pf = 13.7- = 13.9NP 7.7OE 6.2FG
And, not 10M but:
Michael Carter-Williams 7.3m 10.4p 5.7r 8.0a 3.0s 1.0b = 28.1+ 4.9mfg 1.5mft 2.4to 3.7pf = 12.5- = 15.6NP +4.0OE +11.6FG

2012-13
Michael Carter-Williams 35.2m 13.5p 5.5r 8.3a 3.2s 0.5b = 31.0+ 6.8mfg 1.6mft 3.9to 2.6pf = 14.9- = 16.1NP 5.1OE 11.0FG
Brandon Triche 33.8m 16.1p 4.1r 4.3a 1.5s 0.1b = 26.1+ 7.7mfg 1.3mft 3.2to 2.5pf = 14.7- = 11.4NP 7.1OE 4.3FG
Trevor Cooney 11.2m 12.2p 2.9r 2.1a 2.6s 0.3b 20.1+ 9.1mfg 0.4mft 1.7to 3.0pf = 14.2- =
5.9NP 2.7OE

2013-14
Tyler Ennis 35.7m 14.5p 3.8r 6.2a 2.4s 0.2b = 27.1+ 7.0mfg 1.2mft 1.9to 2.3pf = 12.4- =
14.7NP 6.3PE 8.4FG
Trevor Cooney 32.1m 15.0p 2.6r 1.4a 2.3s 0.1b = 21.4+ 7.2mfg 0.4mft 1.0to 1.3pf = 9.9- = 11.5NP 7.4OE 4.1FG
Michael Gbinije 14.6m 9.3p 4.8r 3.3a 2.0s 0.6b = 20.0+ 4.6mfg 1.4mft 1.4to 4.5pf = 11.9- = 8.1NP 3.3OE 4.8FG

2014-15
Trevor Cooney 37.3m 14.3p 3.0r 2.4a 1.9s 0.0b = 21.6+ 8.3mfg 0.8mft 1.6to 1.7pf = 12.4- = 9.2NP 5.2OE 4.0FG
Kaleb Joseph 27.3m 8.7p 3.2r 5.6a 1.3s 0.1b = 18.9+ 5.3mfg 0.8mft 3.4to 2.7pf = 12.2- =
6.7NP 2.6OE 4.1FG
Ron Patterson 13.1m 7.4p 2.6r 4.9a 2.0s 0.4b = 17.3+ 6.7mfg 1.0mft 1.5to 3.2pf = 12.4- =
4.9NP -0.3OE 5.2FG

2015-16
Michael Gbinije 37.9M 18.4P 4.3R 4.6A 2.0S 0.4B = 29.7+ 7.5MFG 1.5MFT 3.0TO 2.8PF = 14.8- = 14.9NP 9.4OE 5.5FG
Trevor Cooney 36.4M 14.2P 2.8R 2.6A 1.8S 0.2B = 21.6+ 8.3MFG 0.6MFT 1.7TO 1.5PF = 12.1- = 9.5NP 5.3OE 4.2FG

2016-17
Tyus Battle 30.7M 14.8P 2.8R 2.2A 1.7S 0.3B 21.8+ 6.4MFG 0.7MFT 1.5TO 2.5PF 11.1- =
10.7NP 7.7OE 3.0FG
John Gillon 29.9M 14.1P 2.5R 7.3A 1.9S 0.0B 25.8+ 6.0MFG 0.6MFT 2.8TO 2.0PF 11.4- =
14.4NP 7.5OE 6.9FG
Frank Howard 15.7M 11.2P 4.1R 9.0A 2.9S 0.4B 27.6+ 6.8MFG 1.5MFT 4.3TO 4.2PF 16.8- = 10.8NP 2.9OE 7.9FG

2017-18
Tyus Battle 39.0m 19.7p 3.0r 2.1a 1.5s 0.2b = 26.5+ 9.8mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.1pf = 15.2- =
11.3NP 9.0OE 2.3FG
Frank Howard 38.4m 15.0p 3.6r 4.9a 1.9s 0.3b = 25.7+ 8.7mfg 1.0mft 3.5to 2.7pf = 15.9- = 9.8NP 5.3OE 4.5FG
And, briefly:
Geno Thorpe 14.3m 16.7p 2.3r 2.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 24.6+ 11.2mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.3pf = 18.3- = 6.3NP 5.0OE 1.3FG

2018-19
Tyus Battle 36.3m 18.9p 3.6r 2.8a 1.3s 0.3b 26.9+ 8.5mfg 1.4mft 2.0to 2.3pf 14.2- =
12.7NP 9.0OE 3.7FG
Frank Howard 26.9m 13.2p 2.9r 4.3a 2.2s 0.2b 22.8+ 7.9mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.0pf 14.7- =
8.1NP 4.8OE 3.3FG
Buddy Boeheim 16.1m 15.9p 3.58r 2.4a 1.3s 0.2b = 23.6+ 8.6mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 2.8pf = 13.7- =
9.9NP 6.8OE 3.1FG

2019-20
Buddy Boeheim 35.6m 17.2p 2.1r 2.4a 1.2s 0.2b = +23.1 9.0mfg 0.6mft 1.6to 1.9pf -13.1 =
10.0NP 7.6OE 2.4FG
Joe Girard 33.0m 15.1p 3.7r 4.3a 1.8s 0.1b = +25.0 8.7mfg 0.4mft 2.3to 2.8pf = -13.2 =
11.8NP 6.0OE 5.8FG
And, briefly:
Jalen Carey 11.5m 5.2p 10.4r 1.7a 1.7s 0.0b = +19.4 12.2mfg 5.2mft 5.2to 1.7pf = -24.3 =
-5.3NP -12.2OE 6.9FG

So far in 2020-21:
Buddy Boeheim 36.0m 15.9p 2.4r 3.3a 1.6s 0.1b = +23.3 9.8mfg 0.2mft 1.7to 1.8pf = -13.5 = 9.8NP 5.9OE 3.9FG
Joe Girard 29.9m 14.4p 4.1r 4.8a 2.2s 0.1b = +25.6 8.4mfg 0.5mft 3.0to 1.9pf = -13.8 = 11.8NP 5.5OE 6.3FG
Kadary Richmond 21.1m 12.8p 5.8r 5.7a 3.8s 1.3b = +29.4 4.9mfg 1.3mft 2.9to 2.8pf = -11.9 = 17.5NP 6.6OE 10.9FG

If you are looking for statistical matches for our current guards, I’d suggest Buddy = Marius Janulis 96-97, (although marius rebounded more than I remember), Joe = GMAC 2002-03, (but not quite) and Kadary = Billy Edelin the year after that.

If you want to see a couple of ‘loaded’ back courts, have a look at 85-86 and 11-12.

 

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Pat, (“20 Plus”) requested that I assemble some “net points” numbers on SU backcourts. I’ve already got the numbers dating back to 1980-81. There are numbers before that available on Orangehoops:

Syracuse Orange Basketball Season Records

All-Time Season Won/Loss record for Syracuse University Basketball Orange along with the team's final AP ranking, and the head coach. Also includes their conference record for the Big East and ACC seasons. The Syracuse Orange were formerly known as the Syracuse Orangemen.

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But they don’t have minutes played until 1980-81 and I like to look at things per 40 minutes. I’ll limit it to guards who have averaged 10 minutes per game. I went by the list of starting fives in the Media Guide, (which somehow lists Wendell Alexis as a guard in 1985-86), my memory, logic and the rebounding and assists stats to categorize who could be considered primarily a guard for each season.

It should be noted that the “Net Points” formula is just an attempt to summarize what’s in a box score. It doesn’t account for things not measured in the box score, such as sneaker-to-sneakier defense, knowing where you are supposed to be and what you are supposed to be doing in JB’s zone, getting loose balls, (which I think should be a stats), being a good teammate, a leader, etc. etc. I find that the most statistically productive players will tend to be the best in these areas, too. But I’ve never claimed that “net points” is a means by itself in evaluating players. It just adds up the numbers and is worth looking at.

Glossary: M= minutes per game, (the rest is per 40 minutes), P= points, R= rebounds A= assists, S= steals, B= blocks, MFG = missed field goals, MFT = miss free throws, TO = turnovers, PF = personal fouls.
NP: “net points”, (P+R+A+S+B) – (MFG+MFT+TO+PF) OE: “offensive efficiency” P-(MFG+MFT)
FG = “floor game” (R+A+S+B) – (TO+PF) or NP-OE.

1980-81
Marty Headd 29.4m 16.2p 2.6r 2.5a 1.3s 0.0b 22.6+ 5.6mfg 0.4mft 2.1to 2.9pf 11.0- = NP: 11.6 OE: 10.2 FG: 1.4
Eddie Moss 32.8m 7.7p 2.8a 6.6a 3.0s 0.3b 20.4+ 2.2mfg 0.8mft 3.9to 3.9pf 10.8- = NP: 9.6 OE: 4.7 FG: 4.9
Gene Waldron 12.9m 13.1p 2.6r 3.9a 2.7s 0.7b 23.0+ 6.2mfg 1.0mft 5.7to 5.9pf 18.8- = NP: 4.2 OE: 5.9 FG: 0.7

1981-82
Erich Santifer 33.8m 20.1p 6.6r 2.2a 1.7s 0.3b 30.9+ 6.6mfg 1.2mft 3.8 to 2.8pf 14.4- = NP: 16.5 OE: 12.3 FG: 4.2
Gene Waldron 29.8m 10.9p 3.4r 5.2a 2.7s 0.0b 22.2+ 4.7mfg 1.2mft 2.9pf 4.4pf 13.2- = NP: 9.0 OE: 5.0 FG: 4.0
Sonny Spera 13.0m 10.2p 3.0r 3.2a 10.3s 0.2b 17.9+ 4.0mfg 1.3mft 4.9to 5.8pf 16.0- = NP 1.9 OE: 4.9: FG -1.9

1982-83
Erich Santifer 31.5m 22.7p 6.3r 4.2a 1.9s 0.2b 35.3+ 6.6mfg 1.4mft 3.3to 3.0pf 14.3- =
21.0np 15.2oe 5.8fg
Gene Waldron 28.0m 13.3p 3.1r 6.2a 2.7s 0.2b 25.5+ 4.7mfg 1.0mft 4.1to 4.6pf 14.4- =
11.1np 7.6oe 3.5fg
Sonny Spera 12.0m 9.6p 3.1r 4.4a 1.3s 0.4b 18.8+ 3.1mfg 0.6mft 3.2to 4.7pf 11.6- =
7.2np 5.9oe 1.3fg

1983-84
Gene Waldron 26.8m 13.7p 3.3r 5.8a 1.6s 0.0b 24.4+ 6.1mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 3.8pf 14.9- =
9.5np 6.2oe 3.3fg
Pearl Washington 34.0m 16.9p 3.1r 7.3a 2.7s 0.1b 30.1+ 5.7mfg 1.7mft 4.1to 4.0pf 15.5- = 14.6np 9.5oe 5.1fg
Greg Monroe 15.3m 7.7p 3.1r 5.8a 0.8s 0.1b 17.5+ 4.3mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 2.3pf 8.9- =
8.6np 2.9oe 5.7fg

1984-85
Michael Brown 23.4m 14.3p 3.9r 2.3a 1.4s 0.2b 22.1+ 6.0mfg 0.2mft 2.8to 3.1pf 12.1- =
10.0NP 8.1OE 1.9FG
Pearl Washington 34.1m 18.0p 3.4r 7.1a 2.3s 0.1b 30.9+ 6.4mfg 1.4mft 5.3to 3.0pf 16.1- = 14.8NP 10.2OE 4.6FG
Greg Monroe 21.4m 7.6p 2.0r 5.2a 1.4s 0.1b 16.3+ 4.1mfg 0.4mft 2.0to 1.5pf 8.0- =
8.3NP 3.1OE 5.2FG

1985-86
Rafael Addison 31.6m 18.9p 7.1r 5.2a 1.6s 0.6b 33.4+ 7.1mfg 0.7mft 2.8to 2.7pf 13.3- =
20.1NP 11.1OE 9.0FG
Pearl Washington 32.2m 21.5p 3.1r 9.7a 3.2s 0.0b 37.5+ 7.3mfg 1.8mft 4.1to 3.4pf 16.6- = 20.9NP 12.4OE 8.5FG
Michael Brown 17.9m 17.2p 5.0r 1.9a 1.2s 0.3b 25.6+ 7.6mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 5.3pf 15.9- =
9.7NP 8.7OE 1.0FG
Greg Monroe 16.4m 11.1p 3.3r 6.8a 1.9s 0.2b 23.3+ 5.1mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 1.1pf 9.3- =
14.0NP 5.0OE 9.0FG
Sherman Douglas 11.4m 19.0p 4.3r 7.4a 4.3s 0.7b 35.7+ 4.7mfg 1.7mft 4.3to 4.3pf 15.0- = 20.7NP 12.6OE 8.1FG

1986-87
Sherman Douglas 32.6m 21.3p 3.1r 9.3a 2.1s 0.2b 36.0+ 7.0mfg 1.7mft 3.9to 2.3pf 14.9- = 21.1NP 12.6OE 8.5FG
Greg Monroe 31.0m 16.6p 3.2r 5.2a 1.5s 0.0b 25.0+ 6.4mfg 0.6mft 1.8to 1.7pf 10.5- =
14.5NP 9.6OE 4.9FG
Stevie Thompson 12.2m 16.6p 6.0r 2.4a 0.6s 1.9b 27.5+ 7.2mfg 3.4mft 3.8to 4.0pf 18.4- =
9.1NP 6.0OE 3.1FG

1987-88
Sherman Douglas 34.1m 18.8p 2.5r 9.6a 2.3s 0.0b 33.2+ 6.9mfg 1.5mft 3.9to 1.8pf 14.1- = 19.1NP 10.4OE 8.7FG
Stevie Thompson 30.6m 18.4p 6.4r 2.5a 1.5s 0.4b 29.2+ 5.7mfg 2.6mft 1.8to 3.1pf 13.2- = 16.0NP 10.1OE 5.9FG
Matt Roe 24.3m 15.2p 4.0r 3.2a 0.8s 0.1b 23.3+ 7.0mfg 0.4mft 1.6to 3.2pf 12.2- =
11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Earl Duncan 18.3m 14.0p 3.1r 7.0a 1.6s 0.2b 25.9+ 6.4mfg 1.3mft 3.1to 3.1pf 13.9- =
12.0NP 6.3OE 5.7FG

1988-89
Sherman Douglas 35.2m 20.7p 2.8r 9.7a 2.1s 0.0b 35.3+ 6.8mfg 1.9mft 4.2to 2.1pf 15.0- = 20.3NP 12.0OE 8.3FG
Stevie Thompson 33.1m 21.7p 6.0r 2.2a 2.4s 0.5b 32.8+ 5.3mfg 2.7mft 2.6to 2.3pf 12.9- = 19.9NP 13.7OE 6.2FG
Matt Roe 25.8m 17.1p 3.6r 2.5a 1.4s 0.0b 24.6+ 6.2mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.4pf 12.6- =
12.0NP 10.0OE 2.0FG
Dave Johnson 14.6m 11.5p 5.5r 2.7a 1.3s 0.3b 21.3+ 5.2mfg 2.4mft 1.8to 5.2pf 14.6- =
6.7NP 3.9OE 2.8FG

1989-90
Stevie Thompson 34.6m 20.6p 6.0r 3.5a 1.7s 0.2b +32.0 8.0mfg 3.5mft 2.8to 2.1pf -16.4 = 15.6NP 9.1OE 6.5FG
Michael Edwards 24.0m 10.5p 1.8r 8.5a 1.5s 0.1b +22.4 5.3mfg 0.4mft 4.1to 3.1pf -12.9 =
9.5NP 4.8OE 4.7FG
Dave Johnson 18.0m 14.6p 5.2r 2.4a 1.0s 0.4b +23.6 8.2mfg 2.0mft 1.7to 3.9pf -15.8=
7.8NP 4.4OE 3.4FG
Mike Hopkins 8.4m 13.7p 5.7r 6.2a 1.0s 0.0b +26.6 3.8mfg 1.2mft 3.4to 7.4pf -15.8 =
10.8NP 8.7OE 2.1FG

1990-91
Adrian Autry 33.2m 11.7p 3.1r 6.4a 2.4s 0.2b +23.8 6.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 4.0pf -15.4 =
8.4NP 4.6OE 3.8FG
Michael Edwards 26.2m 12.0p 2.3r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b +19.5 7.0mfg 0.6mft 3.3to 2.1pf -13.0 =
6.5NP 4.4OE 2.1FG
Mike Hopkins 13.3m 9.9p 5.8r 4.2a 1.2s 0.4b +21.5 3.5mfg 1.4mft 3.5to 8.3pf -16.7 =
4.8NP 5.0OE -0.2FG

1991-92
Adrian Autry 32.7m 13.5p 5.0r 4.9a 1.9s 0.2b +25.5 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.0to 3.8pf -16.8 =
8.7NP 4.5OE 4.2FG
Michael Hopkins 26.9m 9.7p 5.8r 3.4a 2.2s 0.3b +21.4 3.8mfg 1.6mft 2.0to 5.6pf -13.0 =
8.4NP 4.3OE 4.1FG
Michael Edwards 13.6m 13.3p 2.9r 3.6a 1.1s 0.0b +20.9 9.3mfg 0.7mft 2.9to 1.6pf -14.5 = 6.4NP 3.3OE 3.1FG
Anthony Harris 12.2m 11.5p 2.9r 3.5a 0.7s 0.7b +19.3 7.3mfg 0.2mft 3.8to 4.4pf -15.7 =
3.6NP 4.0OE -0.4FG

1992-93
Adrian Autry 31.8m 17.2p 4.6r 7.0a 2.5s 0.2b +31.5 8.0mfg 0.9mft 4.4to 3.6pf -16.9 =
14.6NP 8.3OE 6.3FG
Mike Hopkins 28.2m 13.1p 5.2r 3.1a 2.1s 0.5b +24.0 5.7mfg 1.1mft 3.1to 3.7pf -13.6 =
10.4NP 6.3OE 4.1FG

1993-94
Adrian Autry 35.7m 18.7p 5.4r 6.8a 1.8s 0.4b +33.1 8.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 2.9pf -16.3 =
16.8NP 9.6OE 7.2FG
Lawrence Moten 34.8m 24.6p 5.2r 2.5a 2.3s 0.7b +35.3 9.4mfg 1.7mft 2.1to 2.5pf -15.7 = 19.6NP 13.5OE 6.1FG
Lazarus Sims 9.7m 5.4p 4.6r 8.0a 0.2s 2.2b +20.4 5.6mfg 0.5mft 4.1to 2.5pf -12.7= 7.7NP
-0.7OE 8.4FG

1994-95
Lawrence Moten 35.3m 22.2p 4.7r 3.7a 2.1s 0.3b +33.0 9.3mfg 1.5mft 3.4to 2.2pf -16.4 = 16.6NP 11.4OE 5.2FG
Michael Lloyd 31.9m 15.7p 4.0r 6.5a 2.5s 0.1b +28.8 6.7mfg 2.0mft 3.8to 3.0pf -15.5 =
13.3NP 7.0OE 6.3FG
Lazarus Sims 14.7m 8.1p 3.9r 7.1a 2.4s 0.1b +21.6 2.8mfg 0.9mft 3.4to 4.2pf -11.3 =
10.3NP 4.4OE 5.9FG

1995-96
Lazarus Sims 35.6m 7.1p 4.1r 8.3a 1.6s 0.1b +21.2 2.9mfg 0.7mft 3.6to 2.2pf -9.4 =
11.8NP 3.5OE 8.3FG
Jason Cipolla 23.5m 13.1p 3.3r 2.3a 1.7s 0.2b +20.6 7.6mfg 0.8mft 2.1to 2.3pf -12.8 =
7.8NP 4.7OE 3.1FG
Marius Janulis 20.2m 12.1p 4.2r 2.7a 1.4s 0.1b +20.5 4.5mfg 0.4mft 2.5to 4.8pf -12.2 =
8.3NP 7.2OE 1.1FG

1996-97
Jason Hart 35.7m 10.8p 4.0r 6.4a 3.2s 0.1b +24.5 6.5mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 3.0pf -13.9 =
10.6NP 3.4OE 7.2FG
Marius Janulis 26.5m 14.1p 5.7r 2.5a 0.9s0.0b +23.2 6.4mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 4.2pf -13.4 =
9.8NP 7.1OE 2.7FG
Rock Lloyd 11.8m 15.4p 6.6r 2.0a 2.2s 0.1b +26.3 8.4mfg 3.0mft 4.1to 3.9pf -19.4 =
6.9NP 4.0OE 2.9FG

1997-98
Jason Hart 34.2m 11.9p 4.2r 5.8a 2.6s 0.1b +24.6 6.9mfg 1.4mft 4.1to 3.3pf -15.7 =
8.9NP 3.6OE 5.3FG
Marius Janulis 32.5m 11.8p 3.9r 2.5a 1.6s 0.1b +19.9 5.8mfg 0.2mft 2.0to 3.2pf -11.2 =
8.7NP 5.8OE 2.9FG

1998-99
Jason Hart 32.4m 17.2p 3.7r 5.4a 3.8s 0.2b +30.3 9.0mfg 0.9mft 3.9to 3.7pf -17.5 =
12.8NP 7.3OE 5.5FG
Alan Griffin 27.2m 11.7p 4.0r 4.6a 0.7s 0.6b +21.6 6.2mfg 1.0mft 3.2to 3.2pf -13.6 =
8.0NP 4.5OE 3.5FG
Tony Bland 15.7m 11.3p 3.5r 4.1a 2.2s 0.6b +21.7 5.7mfg 1.3mft 3.7to 2.8pf -13.5 =
8.2NP 4.3OE 3.9FG

1999-00
Jason Hart 33.8m 14.1p 3.5r 7.7a 2.2s 0.1b +27.6 6.6mfg 1.3mft 4.1to 2.9pf -14.9 =
12.7NP 6.2OE 6.5FG
Tony Bland 20.9m 12.8p 3.1r 3.3a 2.0s 0.6b +21.8 6.5mfg 0.7mft 2.2to 2.3pf -11.7 =
10.1NP 5.6OE 4.5FG
DeShaun Williams 16.0m 15.7p 3.8r 4.2a 2.8s 0.2b +26.7 7.4mfg 0.4mft 3.3to 3.8pf -14.9 = 11.8NP 7.9OE 3.9FG
Alan Griffin 10.7m 11.3p 4.1r 6.5a 1.8s 0.1b +23.8 5.6mfg 0.8mft 2.5to 4.2pf -13.1 =
10.7NP 4.9OE 5.8FG

2000-01
Alan Griffin 36.7m 11.8p 3.6r 7.1a 2.1s 0.2b +24.8 6.2mfg 1.4mft 3.1to 2.3pf -13.0 =
11.8NP 4.2OE 7.6FG
DeShaun Williams 32.8m 15.1p 3.5r 4.2a 2.4s 0.4b +25.6 9.0mfg 0.7mft 3.1to 3.6pf -16.4=
9.2NP 4.4OE 4.8FG

2001-02
DeShaun Williams 35.0m 18.2p 4.0r 4.7a 2.4s 0.3b +29.6 10.4mfg 1.2mft 4.5to 2.8pf -18.9 = 10.7NP 6.6OE 4.1FG
James Thues 31.3m 7.2p 3.7r 6.3a 3.6s 0.4b +21.2 3.5mfg 1.0mft 3.1to 2.4pf -10.0 =
11.2NP 2.7OE 8.5FG

2002-03
Gerry McNamara 35.3m 15.1p 2.6r 5.0a 2.5s 0.1b +25.3 7.1mfg 0.3mft 2.8to 2.2pf -12.4 = 12.9NP 7.7OE 5.2FG
Kueth Duany 27.0m 16.3p 5.4r 3.0a 1.5s 0.8b +27.0 7.2mfg 1.6mft 2.4to 3.2pf -14.4 =
12.6NP 7.5OE 5.1FG
Billy Edelin 23.2m 15.6p 5.9r 4.4a 1.8s 0.2b +27.9 5.0mfg 1.7mft 4.0to 1.7pf -12.7 =
15.5NP 8.9OE 6.6FG

2003-04
Gerry McNamara 36.2m 19.0p 2.9r 4.2a 1.9s 0.0b 28.0+ 8.7mfg 0.6mft 2.8to 2.3pf 14.4- = 13.6NP 9.7OE 3.9FG
Billy Edelin 33.1m 16.7p 5.1r 6.3a 1.6s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 2.1pf 12.9- =
16.9NP 8.3OE 8.6FG

2004-05
Gerry McNamara 35.6m 17.8p 2.6r 5.6a 2.1s 0.1b 28.2+ 9.0mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 2.1pf 14.9- = 13.3NP 8.3OE 5.0FG
Josh Pace 33.3m 13.0p 6.0r 4.5a 1.8s 0.5b 25.8+ 4.5mfg 0.8mft 2.4to 1.9pf 9.6- =
16.2NP 7.7OE 8.5FG
Louis McCroskey 19.9m 11.2p 5.9r 2.4a 1.7s 0.1b 21.3+ 6.9mfg 1.2mft 2.4to 2.7pf 13.2- = 8.1NP 3.1OE 5.0FG
Billy Edelin 15.7m 10.2p 3.2r 4.5a 2.0s 0.1b 20.0+ 4.2mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 2.0pf 10.6- =
9.4NP 5.1OE 4.3FG

2005-06
Gerry McNamara 35.2m 18.2p 3.1r 6.7a 2.1s 0.1b 30.2+ 10.3mfg, 0.4mft 3.8to 1.5pf 16.0- = 14.2NP 7.5OE 6.7FG
Eric Devendorf 27.1m 18.1p 3.6r 3.5a 1.5s 0.6b 27.3+ 8.3mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.9pf 16.2- =
11.1NP 9.2OE 1.9FG
Josh Wright 12.5m 13.4p 4.2r 5.1a 2.8s 0.0b 25.5+ 5.5mfg 2.6mft 4.4to 2.6pf 15.1- =
10.4NP 5.3OE 5.1FG

2006-07
Eric Devendorf 30.9m 19.1p 3.5r 5.4a 1.6s 0.4b 30.0+ 9.1mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 17.6- =
12.4NP 8.9OE 3.5FG
Josh Wright 24.1m 11.0p 3.2r 6.3a 1.9s 0.0b 22.4+ 4.5mfg 1.5mft 4.2to 2.4pf 12.6- =
9.8NP 5.0OE 4.8FG
Andy Rautins 18.5m 13.6p 3.7r 2.8a 2.4s 0.3b 22.8+ 7.7mfg 0.4mft 2.5to 3.3pf 13.9- =
8.9NP 5.5OE 3.4FG

2007-08
Jonny Flynn 35.5m 17.6p 3.0r 6.0a 1.7s 0.2b 28.5+ 7.2mfg 1.0mft 3.1to 1.6pf 12.9- =
15.6NP 9.4OE 6.2FG
Eric Devendorf 34.2m 19.9p 3.0r 4.6a 2.0s 0.5b 30.0+ 8.2mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 16.7- =
13.3NP 10.6OE 2.7FG
Scoop Jardine 19.6m 11.2p 3.1r 5.1a 2.4s 0.2b 22.0+ 5.0mfg 0.4mft 3.7to 3.9pf 13.0- =
9.0NP 5.8OE 3.2FG

2008-09
Jonny Flynn 37.3m 18.7p 2.9r 7.2a 1.5s 0.2b 30.5+ 7.2mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 1.6pf 13.6- =
16.7NP 10.1 OE 6.6FG
Eric Devendorf 33.9m 18.5p 2.3r 3.5a 1.2s 0.4b 25.9+ 7.9mfg 0.8mft 3.5to 2.7pf 14.9- =
11.0NP 9.8OE 1.2FG
Andy Rautins 28.6m 14.6p 4.6r 4.2a 2.0s 0.2b 25.6+ 7.9mfg 0.5mft 2.8to 2.8pf 14.0- =
11.6NP 6.2OE 5.4FG

2009-10
Andy Rautins 32.5m 14.9p 4.2r 6.0a 2.4s 0.3b 27.8+ 5.8mfg 0.5mft 3.4to 2.7pf 12.4- =
15.4NP 8.6OE 6.8FG
Brandon Triche 21.3m 15.2p 3.4r 5.3a 1.6s 0.1b 25.6+ 5.4mfg 1.6mft 3.8to 2.4pf 13.2- =
12.4NP 8.2OE 4.2FG
Scoop Jardine 22.2m 16.3p 3.5r 7.8a 2.1s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 1.2mft 3.4to 2.6pf 13.3- =
16.5NP 9.0OE 7.5FG

2010-11
Scoop Jardine 32.1m 15.6p 2.7r 7.3a 2.0s 0.2b 27.8+ 7.7mfg 1.3mft 3.6to 2.2pf 14.8- =
13.0NP 6.6OE 6.4FG
Brandon Triche 28.8m 15.5p 3.7r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b 24.4+ 7.1mfg 0.6mft 2.9to 2.7pf 13.3- =
11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Dion Waiters 16.3m 16.1p 3.8r 3.6a 2.7s 0.3b 26.5+ 8.1mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 3.3pf 14.2- =
12.3NP 7.4OE 4.9FG

2011-12
Scoop Jardine 25.2m 14.1p 3.7r 7.8a 2.1s 0.2b = 27.9+ 6.0mfg 1.3mft 3.6to 1.7pf = 12.6- = 15.3NP 6.8OE 8.5FG
Dion Waiters 24.1m 21.0p 3.8r 4.1a 3.0s 0.5b = 32.4+ 8.4mfg 1.4mft 2.2to 3.1pf = 15.1- = 17.3NP 11.2OE 6.1FG
Brandon Triche 22.5m 16.6p 4.4r 4.6a 1.8s 0.2b = 27.6+ 8.0mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.4pf = 13.7- = 13.9NP 7.7OE 6.2FG
And, not 10M but:
Michael Carter-Williams 7.3m 10.4p 5.7r 8.0a 3.0s 1.0b = 28.1+ 4.9mfg 1.5mft 2.4to 3.7pf = 12.5- = 15.6NP +4.0OE +11.6FG

2012-13
Michael Carter-Williams 35.2m 13.5p 5.5r 8.3a 3.2s 0.5b = 31.0+ 6.8mfg 1.6mft 3.9to 2.6pf = 14.9- = 16.1NP 5.1OE 11.0FG
Brandon Triche 33.8m 16.1p 4.1r 4.3a 1.5s 0.1b = 26.1+ 7.7mfg 1.3mft 3.2to 2.5pf = 14.7- = 11.4NP 7.1OE 4.3FG
Trevor Cooney 11.2m 12.2p 2.9r 2.1a 2.6s 0.3b 20.1+ 9.1mfg 0.4mft 1.7to 3.0pf = 14.2- =
5.9NP 2.7OE

2013-14
Tyler Ennis 35.7m 14.5p 3.8r 6.2a 2.4s 0.2b = 27.1+ 7.0mfg 1.2mft 1.9to 2.3pf = 12.4- =
14.7NP 6.3PE 8.4FG
Trevor Cooney 32.1m 15.0p 2.6r 1.4a 2.3s 0.1b = 21.4+ 7.2mfg 0.4mft 1.0to 1.3pf = 9.9- = 11.5NP 7.4OE 4.1FG
Michael Gbinije 14.6m 9.3p 4.8r 3.3a 2.0s 0.6b = 20.0+ 4.6mfg 1.4mft 1.4to 4.5pf = 11.9- = 8.1NP 3.3OE 4.8FG

2014-15
Trevor Cooney 37.3m 14.3p 3.0r 2.4a 1.9s 0.0b = 21.6+ 8.3mfg 0.8mft 1.6to 1.7pf = 12.4- = 9.2NP 5.2OE 4.0FG
Kaleb Joseph 27.3m 8.7p 3.2r 5.6a 1.3s 0.1b = 18.9+ 5.3mfg 0.8mft 3.4to 2.7pf = 12.2- =
6.7NP 2.6OE 4.1FG
Ron Patterson 13.1m 7.4p 2.6r 4.9a 2.0s 0.4b = 17.3+ 6.7mfg 1.0mft 1.5to 3.2pf = 12.4- =
4.9NP -0.3OE 5.2FG

2015-16
Michael Gbinije 37.9M 18.4P 4.3R 4.6A 2.0S 0.4B = 29.7+ 7.5MFG 1.5MFT 3.0TO 2.8PF = 14.8- = 14.9NP 9.4OE 5.5FG
Trevor Cooney 36.4M 14.2P 2.8R 2.6A 1.8S 0.2B = 21.6+ 8.3MFG 0.6MFT 1.7TO 1.5PF = 12.1- = 9.5NP 5.3OE 4.2FG

2016-17
Tyus Battle 30.7M 14.8P 2.8R 2.2A 1.7S 0.3B 21.8+ 6.4MFG 0.7MFT 1.5TO 2.5PF 11.1- =
10.7NP 7.7OE 3.0FG
John Gillon 29.9M 14.1P 2.5R 7.3A 1.9S 0.0B 25.8+ 6.0MFG 0.6MFT 2.8TO 2.0PF 11.4- =
14.4NP 7.5OE 6.9FG
Frank Howard 15.7M 11.2P 4.1R 9.0A 2.9S 0.4B 27.6+ 6.8MFG 1.5MFT 4.3TO 4.2PF 16.8- = 10.8NP 2.9OE 7.9FG

2017-18
Tyus Battle 39.0m 19.7p 3.0r 2.1a 1.5s 0.2b = 26.5+ 9.8mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.1pf = 15.2- =
11.3NP 9.0OE 2.3FG
Frank Howard 38.4m 15.0p 3.6r 4.9a 1.9s 0.3b = 25.7+ 8.7mfg 1.0mft 3.5to 2.7pf = 15.9- = 9.8NP 5.3OE 4.5FG
And, briefly:
Geno Thorpe 14.3m 16.7p 2.3r 2.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 24.6+ 11.2mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.3pf = 18.3- = 6.3NP 5.0OE 1.3FG

2018-19
Tyus Battle 36.3m 18.9p 3.6r 2.8a 1.3s 0.3b 26.9+ 8.5mfg 1.4mft 2.0to 2.3pf 14.2- =
12.7NP 9.0OE 3.7FG
Frank Howard 26.9m 13.2p 2.9r 4.3a 2.2s 0.2b 22.8+ 7.9mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.0pf 14.7- =
8.1NP 4.8OE 3.3FG
Buddy Boeheim 16.1m 15.9p 3.58r 2.4a 1.3s 0.2b = 23.6+ 8.6mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 2.8pf = 13.7- =
9.9NP 6.8OE 3.1FG

2019-20
Buddy Boeheim 35.6m 17.2p 2.1r 2.4a 1.2s 0.2b = +23.1 9.0mfg 0.6mft 1.6to 1.9pf -13.1 =
10.0NP 7.6OE 2.4FG
Joe Girard 33.0m 15.1p 3.7r 4.3a 1.8s 0.1b = +25.0 8.7mfg 0.4mft 2.3to 2.8pf = -13.2 =
11.8NP 6.0OE 5.8FG
And, briefly:
Jalen Carey 11.5m 5.2p 10.4r 1.7a 1.7s 0.0b = +19.4 12.2mfg 5.2mft 5.2to 1.7pf = -24.3 =
-5.3NP -12.2OE 6.9FG

So far in 2020-21:
Buddy Boeheim 36.0m 15.9p 2.4r 3.3a 1.6s 0.1b = +23.3 9.8mfg 0.2mft 1.7to 1.8pf = -13.5 = 9.8NP 5.9OE 3.9FG
Joe Girard 29.9m 14.4p 4.1r 4.8a 2.2s 0.1b = +25.6 8.4mfg 0.5mft 3.0to 1.9pf = -13.8 = 11.8NP 5.5OE 6.3FG
Kadary Richmond 21.1m 12.8p 5.8r 5.7a 3.8s 1.3b = +29.4 4.9mfg 1.3mft 2.9to 2.8pf = -11.9 = 17.5NP 6.6OE 10.9FG

If you are looking for statistical matches for our current guards, I’d suggest Buddy = Marius Janulis 96-97, (although marius rebounded more than I remember), Joe = GMAC 2002-03, (but not quite) and Kadary = Billy Edelin the year after that.

If you want to see a couple of ‘loaded’ back courts, have a look at 85-86 and 11-12.

This is fun to look back at, as I can forget teams. Thank you for putting this together.

I got sad when I saw those squads from ‘10-‘14, we were so strong. Interesting data.

 

[Louie and Bouie]

Interesting chart. One thing that stood out for me is that Erich Santifer rarely gets the love he deserves as an SU great.

 

[20plus]

With these numbers I rest my case. Round 3 coming

 

[SWC75]

With these numbers I rest my case. Round 3 coming

Just remember:

"It should be noted that the “Net Points” formula is just an attempt to summarize what’s in a box score. It doesn’t account for things not measured in the box score, such as sneaker-to-sneakier defense, knowing where you are supposed to be and what you are supposed to be doing in JB’s zone, getting loose balls, (which I think should be a stat), being a good teammate, a leader, etc. etc. I find that the most statistically productive players will tend to be the best in these areas, too. But I’ve never claimed that “net points” is a means by itself in evaluating players. It just adds up the numbers and is worth looking at."

I should have added "forcing the defense to guard you because of what you might do".

 

[ORRange]

Our guards were fantastic in the 80s and early 2010s. The 2 golden eras. Scoop and Santifer are really underated. Trevor and Frank way overated.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Fans hated the old guards too.

 

[OrangeinDC]

Pat, (“20 Plus”) requested that I assemble some “net points” numbers on SU backcourts. I’ve already got the numbers dating back to 1980-81. There are numbers before that available on Orangehoops:

Syracuse Orange Basketball Season Records

All-Time Season Won/Loss record for Syracuse University Basketball Orange along with the team's final AP ranking, and the head coach. Also includes their conference record for the Big East and ACC seasons. The Syracuse Orange were formerly known as the Syracuse Orangemen.

orangehoops.org

But they don’t have minutes played until 1980-81 and I like to look at things per 40 minutes. I’ll limit it to guards who have averaged 10 minutes per game. I went by the list of starting fives in the Media Guide, (which somehow lists Wendell Alexis as a guard in 1985-86), my memory, logic and the rebounding and assists stats to categorize who could be considered primarily a guard for each season.

It should be noted that the “Net Points” formula is just an attempt to summarize what’s in a box score. It doesn’t account for things not measured in the box score, such as sneaker-to-sneakier defense, knowing where you are supposed to be and what you are supposed to be doing in JB’s zone, getting loose balls, (which I think should be a stats), being a good teammate, a leader, etc. etc. I find that the most statistically productive players will tend to be the best in these areas, too. But I’ve never claimed that “net points” is a means by itself in evaluating players. It just adds up the numbers and is worth looking at.

Glossary: M= minutes per game, (the rest is per 40 minutes), P= points, R= rebounds A= assists, S= steals, B= blocks, MFG = missed field goals, MFT = miss free throws, TO = turnovers, PF = personal fouls.
NP: “net points”, (P+R+A+S+B) – (MFG+MFT+TO+PF) OE: “offensive efficiency” P-(MFG+MFT)
FG = “floor game” (R+A+S+B) – (TO+PF) or NP-OE.

1980-81
Marty Headd 29.4m 16.2p 2.6r 2.5a 1.3s 0.0b 22.6+ 5.6mfg 0.4mft 2.1to 2.9pf 11.0- = NP: 11.6 OE: 10.2 FG: 1.4
Eddie Moss 32.8m 7.7p 2.8a 6.6a 3.0s 0.3b 20.4+ 2.2mfg 0.8mft 3.9to 3.9pf 10.8- = NP: 9.6 OE: 4.7 FG: 4.9
Gene Waldron 12.9m 13.1p 2.6r 3.9a 2.7s 0.7b 23.0+ 6.2mfg 1.0mft 5.7to 5.9pf 18.8- = NP: 4.2 OE: 5.9 FG: 0.7

1981-82
Erich Santifer 33.8m 20.1p 6.6r 2.2a 1.7s 0.3b 30.9+ 6.6mfg 1.2mft 3.8 to 2.8pf 14.4- = NP: 16.5 OE: 12.3 FG: 4.2
Gene Waldron 29.8m 10.9p 3.4r 5.2a 2.7s 0.0b 22.2+ 4.7mfg 1.2mft 2.9pf 4.4pf 13.2- = NP: 9.0 OE: 5.0 FG: 4.0
Sonny Spera 13.0m 10.2p 3.0r 3.2a 10.3s 0.2b 17.9+ 4.0mfg 1.3mft 4.9to 5.8pf 16.0- = NP 1.9 OE: 4.9: FG -1.9

1982-83
Erich Santifer 31.5m 22.7p 6.3r 4.2a 1.9s 0.2b 35.3+ 6.6mfg 1.4mft 3.3to 3.0pf 14.3- =
21.0np 15.2oe 5.8fg
Gene Waldron 28.0m 13.3p 3.1r 6.2a 2.7s 0.2b 25.5+ 4.7mfg 1.0mft 4.1to 4.6pf 14.4- =
11.1np 7.6oe 3.5fg
Sonny Spera 12.0m 9.6p 3.1r 4.4a 1.3s 0.4b 18.8+ 3.1mfg 0.6mft 3.2to 4.7pf 11.6- =
7.2np 5.9oe 1.3fg

1983-84
Gene Waldron 26.8m 13.7p 3.3r 5.8a 1.6s 0.0b 24.4+ 6.1mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 3.8pf 14.9- =
9.5np 6.2oe 3.3fg
Pearl Washington 34.0m 16.9p 3.1r 7.3a 2.7s 0.1b 30.1+ 5.7mfg 1.7mft 4.1to 4.0pf 15.5- = 14.6np 9.5oe 5.1fg
Greg Monroe 15.3m 7.7p 3.1r 5.8a 0.8s 0.1b 17.5+ 4.3mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 2.3pf 8.9- =
8.6np 2.9oe 5.7fg

1984-85
Michael Brown 23.4m 14.3p 3.9r 2.3a 1.4s 0.2b 22.1+ 6.0mfg 0.2mft 2.8to 3.1pf 12.1- =
10.0NP 8.1OE 1.9FG
Pearl Washington 34.1m 18.0p 3.4r 7.1a 2.3s 0.1b 30.9+ 6.4mfg 1.4mft 5.3to 3.0pf 16.1- = 14.8NP 10.2OE 4.6FG
Greg Monroe 21.4m 7.6p 2.0r 5.2a 1.4s 0.1b 16.3+ 4.1mfg 0.4mft 2.0to 1.5pf 8.0- =
8.3NP 3.1OE 5.2FG

1985-86
Rafael Addison 31.6m 18.9p 7.1r 5.2a 1.6s 0.6b 33.4+ 7.1mfg 0.7mft 2.8to 2.7pf 13.3- =
20.1NP 11.1OE 9.0FG
Pearl Washington 32.2m 21.5p 3.1r 9.7a 3.2s 0.0b 37.5+ 7.3mfg 1.8mft 4.1to 3.4pf 16.6- = 20.9NP 12.4OE 8.5FG
Michael Brown 17.9m 17.2p 5.0r 1.9a 1.2s 0.3b 25.6+ 7.6mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 5.3pf 15.9- =
9.7NP 8.7OE 1.0FG
Greg Monroe 16.4m 11.1p 3.3r 6.8a 1.9s 0.2b 23.3+ 5.1mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 1.1pf 9.3- =
14.0NP 5.0OE 9.0FG
Sherman Douglas 11.4m 19.0p 4.3r 7.4a 4.3s 0.7b 35.7+ 4.7mfg 1.7mft 4.3to 4.3pf 15.0- = 20.7NP 12.6OE 8.1FG

1986-87
Sherman Douglas 32.6m 21.3p 3.1r 9.3a 2.1s 0.2b 36.0+ 7.0mfg 1.7mft 3.9to 2.3pf 14.9- = 21.1NP 12.6OE 8.5FG
Greg Monroe 31.0m 16.6p 3.2r 5.2a 1.5s 0.0b 25.0+ 6.4mfg 0.6mft 1.8to 1.7pf 10.5- =
14.5NP 9.6OE 4.9FG
Stevie Thompson 12.2m 16.6p 6.0r 2.4a 0.6s 1.9b 27.5+ 7.2mfg 3.4mft 3.8to 4.0pf 18.4- =
9.1NP 6.0OE 3.1FG

1987-88
Sherman Douglas 34.1m 18.8p 2.5r 9.6a 2.3s 0.0b 33.2+ 6.9mfg 1.5mft 3.9to 1.8pf 14.1- = 19.1NP 10.4OE 8.7FG
Stevie Thompson 30.6m 18.4p 6.4r 2.5a 1.5s 0.4b 29.2+ 5.7mfg 2.6mft 1.8to 3.1pf 13.2- = 16.0NP 10.1OE 5.9FG
Matt Roe 24.3m 15.2p 4.0r 3.2a 0.8s 0.1b 23.3+ 7.0mfg 0.4mft 1.6to 3.2pf 12.2- =
11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Earl Duncan 18.3m 14.0p 3.1r 7.0a 1.6s 0.2b 25.9+ 6.4mfg 1.3mft 3.1to 3.1pf 13.9- =
12.0NP 6.3OE 5.7FG

1988-89
Sherman Douglas 35.2m 20.7p 2.8r 9.7a 2.1s 0.0b 35.3+ 6.8mfg 1.9mft 4.2to 2.1pf 15.0- = 20.3NP 12.0OE 8.3FG
Stevie Thompson 33.1m 21.7p 6.0r 2.2a 2.4s 0.5b 32.8+ 5.3mfg 2.7mft 2.6to 2.3pf 12.9- = 19.9NP 13.7OE 6.2FG
Matt Roe 25.8m 17.1p 3.6r 2.5a 1.4s 0.0b 24.6+ 6.2mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.4pf 12.6- =
12.0NP 10.0OE 2.0FG
Dave Johnson 14.6m 11.5p 5.5r 2.7a 1.3s 0.3b 21.3+ 5.2mfg 2.4mft 1.8to 5.2pf 14.6- =
6.7NP 3.9OE 2.8FG

1989-90
Stevie Thompson 34.6m 20.6p 6.0r 3.5a 1.7s 0.2b +32.0 8.0mfg 3.5mft 2.8to 2.1pf -16.4 = 15.6NP 9.1OE 6.5FG
Michael Edwards 24.0m 10.5p 1.8r 8.5a 1.5s 0.1b +22.4 5.3mfg 0.4mft 4.1to 3.1pf -12.9 =
9.5NP 4.8OE 4.7FG
Dave Johnson 18.0m 14.6p 5.2r 2.4a 1.0s 0.4b +23.6 8.2mfg 2.0mft 1.7to 3.9pf -15.8=
7.8NP 4.4OE 3.4FG
Mike Hopkins 8.4m 13.7p 5.7r 6.2a 1.0s 0.0b +26.6 3.8mfg 1.2mft 3.4to 7.4pf -15.8 =
10.8NP 8.7OE 2.1FG

1990-91
Adrian Autry 33.2m 11.7p 3.1r 6.4a 2.4s 0.2b +23.8 6.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 4.0pf -15.4 =
8.4NP 4.6OE 3.8FG
Michael Edwards 26.2m 12.0p 2.3r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b +19.5 7.0mfg 0.6mft 3.3to 2.1pf -13.0 =
6.5NP 4.4OE 2.1FG
Mike Hopkins 13.3m 9.9p 5.8r 4.2a 1.2s 0.4b +21.5 3.5mfg 1.4mft 3.5to 8.3pf -16.7 =
4.8NP 5.0OE -0.2FG

1991-92
Adrian Autry 32.7m 13.5p 5.0r 4.9a 1.9s 0.2b +25.5 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.0to 3.8pf -16.8 =
8.7NP 4.5OE 4.2FG
Michael Hopkins 26.9m 9.7p 5.8r 3.4a 2.2s 0.3b +21.4 3.8mfg 1.6mft 2.0to 5.6pf -13.0 =
8.4NP 4.3OE 4.1FG
Michael Edwards 13.6m 13.3p 2.9r 3.6a 1.1s 0.0b +20.9 9.3mfg 0.7mft 2.9to 1.6pf -14.5 = 6.4NP 3.3OE 3.1FG
Anthony Harris 12.2m 11.5p 2.9r 3.5a 0.7s 0.7b +19.3 7.3mfg 0.2mft 3.8to 4.4pf -15.7 =
3.6NP 4.0OE -0.4FG

1992-93
Adrian Autry 31.8m 17.2p 4.6r 7.0a 2.5s 0.2b +31.5 8.0mfg 0.9mft 4.4to 3.6pf -16.9 =
14.6NP 8.3OE 6.3FG
Mike Hopkins 28.2m 13.1p 5.2r 3.1a 2.1s 0.5b +24.0 5.7mfg 1.1mft 3.1to 3.7pf -13.6 =
10.4NP 6.3OE 4.1FG

1993-94
Adrian Autry 35.7m 18.7p 5.4r 6.8a 1.8s 0.4b +33.1 8.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 2.9pf -16.3 =
16.8NP 9.6OE 7.2FG
Lawrence Moten 34.8m 24.6p 5.2r 2.5a 2.3s 0.7b +35.3 9.4mfg 1.7mft 2.1to 2.5pf -15.7 = 19.6NP 13.5OE 6.1FG
Lazarus Sims 9.7m 5.4p 4.6r 8.0a 0.2s 2.2b +20.4 5.6mfg 0.5mft 4.1to 2.5pf -12.7= 7.7NP
-0.7OE 8.4FG

1994-95
Lawrence Moten 35.3m 22.2p 4.7r 3.7a 2.1s 0.3b +33.0 9.3mfg 1.5mft 3.4to 2.2pf -16.4 = 16.6NP 11.4OE 5.2FG
Michael Lloyd 31.9m 15.7p 4.0r 6.5a 2.5s 0.1b +28.8 6.7mfg 2.0mft 3.8to 3.0pf -15.5 =
13.3NP 7.0OE 6.3FG
Lazarus Sims 14.7m 8.1p 3.9r 7.1a 2.4s 0.1b +21.6 2.8mfg 0.9mft 3.4to 4.2pf -11.3 =
10.3NP 4.4OE 5.9FG

1995-96
Lazarus Sims 35.6m 7.1p 4.1r 8.3a 1.6s 0.1b +21.2 2.9mfg 0.7mft 3.6to 2.2pf -9.4 =
11.8NP 3.5OE 8.3FG
Jason Cipolla 23.5m 13.1p 3.3r 2.3a 1.7s 0.2b +20.6 7.6mfg 0.8mft 2.1to 2.3pf -12.8 =
7.8NP 4.7OE 3.1FG
Marius Janulis 20.2m 12.1p 4.2r 2.7a 1.4s 0.1b +20.5 4.5mfg 0.4mft 2.5to 4.8pf -12.2 =
8.3NP 7.2OE 1.1FG

1996-97
Jason Hart 35.7m 10.8p 4.0r 6.4a 3.2s 0.1b +24.5 6.5mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 3.0pf -13.9 =
10.6NP 3.4OE 7.2FG
Marius Janulis 26.5m 14.1p 5.7r 2.5a 0.9s0.0b +23.2 6.4mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 4.2pf -13.4 =
9.8NP 7.1OE 2.7FG
Rock Lloyd 11.8m 15.4p 6.6r 2.0a 2.2s 0.1b +26.3 8.4mfg 3.0mft 4.1to 3.9pf -19.4 =
6.9NP 4.0OE 2.9FG

1997-98
Jason Hart 34.2m 11.9p 4.2r 5.8a 2.6s 0.1b +24.6 6.9mfg 1.4mft 4.1to 3.3pf -15.7 =
8.9NP 3.6OE 5.3FG
Marius Janulis 32.5m 11.8p 3.9r 2.5a 1.6s 0.1b +19.9 5.8mfg 0.2mft 2.0to 3.2pf -11.2 =
8.7NP 5.8OE 2.9FG

1998-99
Jason Hart 32.4m 17.2p 3.7r 5.4a 3.8s 0.2b +30.3 9.0mfg 0.9mft 3.9to 3.7pf -17.5 =
12.8NP 7.3OE 5.5FG
Alan Griffin 27.2m 11.7p 4.0r 4.6a 0.7s 0.6b +21.6 6.2mfg 1.0mft 3.2to 3.2pf -13.6 =
8.0NP 4.5OE 3.5FG
Tony Bland 15.7m 11.3p 3.5r 4.1a 2.2s 0.6b +21.7 5.7mfg 1.3mft 3.7to 2.8pf -13.5 =
8.2NP 4.3OE 3.9FG

1999-00
Jason Hart 33.8m 14.1p 3.5r 7.7a 2.2s 0.1b +27.6 6.6mfg 1.3mft 4.1to 2.9pf -14.9 =
12.7NP 6.2OE 6.5FG
Tony Bland 20.9m 12.8p 3.1r 3.3a 2.0s 0.6b +21.8 6.5mfg 0.7mft 2.2to 2.3pf -11.7 =
10.1NP 5.6OE 4.5FG
DeShaun Williams 16.0m 15.7p 3.8r 4.2a 2.8s 0.2b +26.7 7.4mfg 0.4mft 3.3to 3.8pf -14.9 = 11.8NP 7.9OE 3.9FG
Alan Griffin 10.7m 11.3p 4.1r 6.5a 1.8s 0.1b +23.8 5.6mfg 0.8mft 2.5to 4.2pf -13.1 =
10.7NP 4.9OE 5.8FG

2000-01
Alan Griffin 36.7m 11.8p 3.6r 7.1a 2.1s 0.2b +24.8 6.2mfg 1.4mft 3.1to 2.3pf -13.0 =
11.8NP 4.2OE 7.6FG
DeShaun Williams 32.8m 15.1p 3.5r 4.2a 2.4s 0.4b +25.6 9.0mfg 0.7mft 3.1to 3.6pf -16.4=
9.2NP 4.4OE 4.8FG

2001-02
DeShaun Williams 35.0m 18.2p 4.0r 4.7a 2.4s 0.3b +29.6 10.4mfg 1.2mft 4.5to 2.8pf -18.9 = 10.7NP 6.6OE 4.1FG
James Thues 31.3m 7.2p 3.7r 6.3a 3.6s 0.4b +21.2 3.5mfg 1.0mft 3.1to 2.4pf -10.0 =
11.2NP 2.7OE 8.5FG

2002-03
Gerry McNamara 35.3m 15.1p 2.6r 5.0a 2.5s 0.1b +25.3 7.1mfg 0.3mft 2.8to 2.2pf -12.4 = 12.9NP 7.7OE 5.2FG
Kueth Duany 27.0m 16.3p 5.4r 3.0a 1.5s 0.8b +27.0 7.2mfg 1.6mft 2.4to 3.2pf -14.4 =
12.6NP 7.5OE 5.1FG
Billy Edelin 23.2m 15.6p 5.9r 4.4a 1.8s 0.2b +27.9 5.0mfg 1.7mft 4.0to 1.7pf -12.7 =
15.5NP 8.9OE 6.6FG

2003-04
Gerry McNamara 36.2m 19.0p 2.9r 4.2a 1.9s 0.0b 28.0+ 8.7mfg 0.6mft 2.8to 2.3pf 14.4- = 13.6NP 9.7OE 3.9FG
Billy Edelin 33.1m 16.7p 5.1r 6.3a 1.6s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 2.1pf 12.9- =
16.9NP 8.3OE 8.6FG

2004-05
Gerry McNamara 35.6m 17.8p 2.6r 5.6a 2.1s 0.1b 28.2+ 9.0mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 2.1pf 14.9- = 13.3NP 8.3OE 5.0FG
Josh Pace 33.3m 13.0p 6.0r 4.5a 1.8s 0.5b 25.8+ 4.5mfg 0.8mft 2.4to 1.9pf 9.6- =
16.2NP 7.7OE 8.5FG
Louis McCroskey 19.9m 11.2p 5.9r 2.4a 1.7s 0.1b 21.3+ 6.9mfg 1.2mft 2.4to 2.7pf 13.2- = 8.1NP 3.1OE 5.0FG
Billy Edelin 15.7m 10.2p 3.2r 4.5a 2.0s 0.1b 20.0+ 4.2mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 2.0pf 10.6- =
9.4NP 5.1OE 4.3FG

2005-06
Gerry McNamara 35.2m 18.2p 3.1r 6.7a 2.1s 0.1b 30.2+ 10.3mfg, 0.4mft 3.8to 1.5pf 16.0- = 14.2NP 7.5OE 6.7FG
Eric Devendorf 27.1m 18.1p 3.6r 3.5a 1.5s 0.6b 27.3+ 8.3mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.9pf 16.2- =
11.1NP 9.2OE 1.9FG
Josh Wright 12.5m 13.4p 4.2r 5.1a 2.8s 0.0b 25.5+ 5.5mfg 2.6mft 4.4to 2.6pf 15.1- =
10.4NP 5.3OE 5.1FG

2006-07
Eric Devendorf 30.9m 19.1p 3.5r 5.4a 1.6s 0.4b 30.0+ 9.1mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 17.6- =
12.4NP 8.9OE 3.5FG
Josh Wright 24.1m 11.0p 3.2r 6.3a 1.9s 0.0b 22.4+ 4.5mfg 1.5mft 4.2to 2.4pf 12.6- =
9.8NP 5.0OE 4.8FG
Andy Rautins 18.5m 13.6p 3.7r 2.8a 2.4s 0.3b 22.8+ 7.7mfg 0.4mft 2.5to 3.3pf 13.9- =
8.9NP 5.5OE 3.4FG

2007-08
Jonny Flynn 35.5m 17.6p 3.0r 6.0a 1.7s 0.2b 28.5+ 7.2mfg 1.0mft 3.1to 1.6pf 12.9- =
15.6NP 9.4OE 6.2FG
Eric Devendorf 34.2m 19.9p 3.0r 4.6a 2.0s 0.5b 30.0+ 8.2mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 16.7- =
13.3NP 10.6OE 2.7FG
Scoop Jardine 19.6m 11.2p 3.1r 5.1a 2.4s 0.2b 22.0+ 5.0mfg 0.4mft 3.7to 3.9pf 13.0- =
9.0NP 5.8OE 3.2FG

2008-09
Jonny Flynn 37.3m 18.7p 2.9r 7.2a 1.5s 0.2b 30.5+ 7.2mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 1.6pf 13.6- =
16.7NP 10.1 OE 6.6FG
Eric Devendorf 33.9m 18.5p 2.3r 3.5a 1.2s 0.4b 25.9+ 7.9mfg 0.8mft 3.5to 2.7pf 14.9- =
11.0NP 9.8OE 1.2FG
Andy Rautins 28.6m 14.6p 4.6r 4.2a 2.0s 0.2b 25.6+ 7.9mfg 0.5mft 2.8to 2.8pf 14.0- =
11.6NP 6.2OE 5.4FG

2009-10
Andy Rautins 32.5m 14.9p 4.2r 6.0a 2.4s 0.3b 27.8+ 5.8mfg 0.5mft 3.4to 2.7pf 12.4- =
15.4NP 8.6OE 6.8FG
Brandon Triche 21.3m 15.2p 3.4r 5.3a 1.6s 0.1b 25.6+ 5.4mfg 1.6mft 3.8to 2.4pf 13.2- =
12.4NP 8.2OE 4.2FG
Scoop Jardine 22.2m 16.3p 3.5r 7.8a 2.1s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 1.2mft 3.4to 2.6pf 13.3- =
16.5NP 9.0OE 7.5FG

2010-11
Scoop Jardine 32.1m 15.6p 2.7r 7.3a 2.0s 0.2b 27.8+ 7.7mfg 1.3mft 3.6to 2.2pf 14.8- =
13.0NP 6.6OE 6.4FG
Brandon Triche 28.8m 15.5p 3.7r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b 24.4+ 7.1mfg 0.6mft 2.9to 2.7pf 13.3- =
11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Dion Waiters 16.3m 16.1p 3.8r 3.6a 2.7s 0.3b 26.5+ 8.1mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 3.3pf 14.2- =
12.3NP 7.4OE 4.9FG

2011-12
Scoop Jardine 25.2m 14.1p 3.7r 7.8a 2.1s 0.2b = 27.9+ 6.0mfg 1.3mft 3.6to 1.7pf = 12.6- = 15.3NP 6.8OE 8.5FG
Dion Waiters 24.1m 21.0p 3.8r 4.1a 3.0s 0.5b = 32.4+ 8.4mfg 1.4mft 2.2to 3.1pf = 15.1- = 17.3NP 11.2OE 6.1FG
Brandon Triche 22.5m 16.6p 4.4r 4.6a 1.8s 0.2b = 27.6+ 8.0mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.4pf = 13.7- = 13.9NP 7.7OE 6.2FG
And, not 10M but:
Michael Carter-Williams 7.3m 10.4p 5.7r 8.0a 3.0s 1.0b = 28.1+ 4.9mfg 1.5mft 2.4to 3.7pf = 12.5- = 15.6NP +4.0OE +11.6FG

2012-13
Michael Carter-Williams 35.2m 13.5p 5.5r 8.3a 3.2s 0.5b = 31.0+ 6.8mfg 1.6mft 3.9to 2.6pf = 14.9- = 16.1NP 5.1OE 11.0FG
Brandon Triche 33.8m 16.1p 4.1r 4.3a 1.5s 0.1b = 26.1+ 7.7mfg 1.3mft 3.2to 2.5pf = 14.7- = 11.4NP 7.1OE 4.3FG
Trevor Cooney 11.2m 12.2p 2.9r 2.1a 2.6s 0.3b 20.1+ 9.1mfg 0.4mft 1.7to 3.0pf = 14.2- =
5.9NP 2.7OE

2013-14
Tyler Ennis 35.7m 14.5p 3.8r 6.2a 2.4s 0.2b = 27.1+ 7.0mfg 1.2mft 1.9to 2.3pf = 12.4- =
14.7NP 6.3PE 8.4FG
Trevor Cooney 32.1m 15.0p 2.6r 1.4a 2.3s 0.1b = 21.4+ 7.2mfg 0.4mft 1.0to 1.3pf = 9.9- = 11.5NP 7.4OE 4.1FG
Michael Gbinije 14.6m 9.3p 4.8r 3.3a 2.0s 0.6b = 20.0+ 4.6mfg 1.4mft 1.4to 4.5pf = 11.9- = 8.1NP 3.3OE 4.8FG

2014-15
Trevor Cooney 37.3m 14.3p 3.0r 2.4a 1.9s 0.0b = 21.6+ 8.3mfg 0.8mft 1.6to 1.7pf = 12.4- = 9.2NP 5.2OE 4.0FG
Kaleb Joseph 27.3m 8.7p 3.2r 5.6a 1.3s 0.1b = 18.9+ 5.3mfg 0.8mft 3.4to 2.7pf = 12.2- =
6.7NP 2.6OE 4.1FG
Ron Patterson 13.1m 7.4p 2.6r 4.9a 2.0s 0.4b = 17.3+ 6.7mfg 1.0mft 1.5to 3.2pf = 12.4- =
4.9NP -0.3OE 5.2FG

2015-16
Michael Gbinije 37.9M 18.4P 4.3R 4.6A 2.0S 0.4B = 29.7+ 7.5MFG 1.5MFT 3.0TO 2.8PF = 14.8- = 14.9NP 9.4OE 5.5FG
Trevor Cooney 36.4M 14.2P 2.8R 2.6A 1.8S 0.2B = 21.6+ 8.3MFG 0.6MFT 1.7TO 1.5PF = 12.1- = 9.5NP 5.3OE 4.2FG

2016-17
Tyus Battle 30.7M 14.8P 2.8R 2.2A 1.7S 0.3B 21.8+ 6.4MFG 0.7MFT 1.5TO 2.5PF 11.1- =
10.7NP 7.7OE 3.0FG
John Gillon 29.9M 14.1P 2.5R 7.3A 1.9S 0.0B 25.8+ 6.0MFG 0.6MFT 2.8TO 2.0PF 11.4- =
14.4NP 7.5OE 6.9FG
Frank Howard 15.7M 11.2P 4.1R 9.0A 2.9S 0.4B 27.6+ 6.8MFG 1.5MFT 4.3TO 4.2PF 16.8- = 10.8NP 2.9OE 7.9FG

2017-18
Tyus Battle 39.0m 19.7p 3.0r 2.1a 1.5s 0.2b = 26.5+ 9.8mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.1pf = 15.2- =
11.3NP 9.0OE 2.3FG
Frank Howard 38.4m 15.0p 3.6r 4.9a 1.9s 0.3b = 25.7+ 8.7mfg 1.0mft 3.5to 2.7pf = 15.9- = 9.8NP 5.3OE 4.5FG
And, briefly:
Geno Thorpe 14.3m 16.7p 2.3r 2.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 24.6+ 11.2mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.3pf = 18.3- = 6.3NP 5.0OE 1.3FG

2018-19
Tyus Battle 36.3m 18.9p 3.6r 2.8a 1.3s 0.3b 26.9+ 8.5mfg 1.4mft 2.0to 2.3pf 14.2- =
12.7NP 9.0OE 3.7FG
Frank Howard 26.9m 13.2p 2.9r 4.3a 2.2s 0.2b 22.8+ 7.9mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.0pf 14.7- =
8.1NP 4.8OE 3.3FG
Buddy Boeheim 16.1m 15.9p 3.58r 2.4a 1.3s 0.2b = 23.6+ 8.6mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 2.8pf = 13.7- =
9.9NP 6.8OE 3.1FG

2019-20
Buddy Boeheim 35.6m 17.2p 2.1r 2.4a 1.2s 0.2b = +23.1 9.0mfg 0.6mft 1.6to 1.9pf -13.1 =
10.0NP 7.6OE 2.4FG
Joe Girard 33.0m 15.1p 3.7r 4.3a 1.8s 0.1b = +25.0 8.7mfg 0.4mft 2.3to 2.8pf = -13.2 =
11.8NP 6.0OE 5.8FG
And, briefly:
Jalen Carey 11.5m 5.2p 10.4r 1.7a 1.7s 0.0b = +19.4 12.2mfg 5.2mft 5.2to 1.7pf = -24.3 =
-5.3NP -12.2OE 6.9FG

So far in 2020-21:
Buddy Boeheim 36.0m 15.9p 2.4r 3.3a 1.6s 0.1b = +23.3 9.8mfg 0.2mft 1.7to 1.8pf = -13.5 = 9.8NP 5.9OE 3.9FG
Joe Girard 29.9m 14.4p 4.1r 4.8a 2.2s 0.1b = +25.6 8.4mfg 0.5mft 3.0to 1.9pf = -13.8 = 11.8NP 5.5OE 6.3FG
Kadary Richmond 21.1m 12.8p 5.8r 5.7a 3.8s 1.3b = +29.4 4.9mfg 1.3mft 2.9to 2.8pf = -11.9 = 17.5NP 6.6OE 10.9FG

If you are looking for statistical matches for our current guards, I’d suggest Buddy = Marius Janulis 96-97, (although marius rebounded more than I remember), Joe = GMAC 2002-03, (but not quite) and Kadary = Billy Edelin the year after that.

If you want to see a couple of ‘loaded’ back courts, have a look at 85-86 and 11-12.

Man this is great stuff!!! Thanks for putting this together!

 

[SWC75]

I arbitrarily set the minimum production for a starting player at 10.0NP/40. Like a lot of things with this formula, it seems to work out: it passes the eye or the memory test. So here is the “ten point club” (limit of one year per player):

Sherman Douglas 86-87 21.1
Eric Santifer 82-83 21.0
Pearl Washington 85-86 20.9
Rafael Addison 85-86 20.1
Stevie Thompson 88-89 19.9

Lawrence Moten 93-94 19.6
Dion Waiters 10-11 17.3 Kadary Richmond (17.5) will have this spot if he maintains this pace
Billy Edelin 02-03 16.9
Adrian Autry 93-94 16.8
Jonny Flynn 08-09 16.7

Scoop Jardine 09-10 16.5
Michael Carter-Williams 12-13 16.1
Andy Rautins 09-10 15.4
Michael Gbinije 15-16 14.9
Tyler Ennis 13-14 14.7

Greg Monroe 86-87 14.5
John Gillon 16-17 14.4
Gerry McNamara 05-06 14.2
Brandon Triche 09-10 13.9
Eric Devendorf 06-07 13.3

Michael Lloyd 94-95 13.3
Jason Hart 98-99 12.8
Tyus Battle 17-18 12.7
Kueth Duany 02-03 12.6
Earl Duncan 87-88 12.0

Matt Roe 88-89 12.0
Joe Girard 19-20 11.8 Joe is exactly where he was last year.
Alan Griffin 00-01 11.8
Lazarus Sims 95-96 11.8
DeShaun Williams 99-00 11.8
Marty Headd 80-81 11.6

Trevor Cooney 13-14 11.5
James Thues 01-02 11.2
Gene Waldron 82-83 11.1
Mike Hopkins 89-90 10.8
Frank Howard 16-17 10.8

Josh Wright 05-06 10.4
Sonny Spera 83-84 10.2
Tony Bland 98-99 10.1
Michael Brown 84-85 10.0
Buddy Boeheim 19-20 10.0
Buddy is at 9.8 this year. He was 9.9 as a freshman. it is what it is.

 

[SWC75]

Interesting chart. One thing that stood out for me is that Erich Santifer rarely gets the love he deserves as an SU great.

You shoulda seen him in the 1981 NIT final, The refs fouled out 4/5 of our starting line-up but they forgot to foul out Eric, who got us into the overtime before Nolan Richardson's Tulsa team finally won it 84-86. Eric had 29p 9r 3a 3s in that one.

Syracuse vs Tulsa March 25 1981 NIT Championship

Boxscore from the Syracuse Orangemen versus Tulsa in the 1981 NIT Championship. Tulsa would win in overtime 86-84.

orangehoops.org

Well, 3/5. Look at the fouls called: 31 on us, 16 on them. My recollection is that we had pulled ahead by 6-7 points midway through the second half when Richardson called a time out. he didn't spend any of it with the players, just talking calmly with the refs, who then called 18 of the next 19 fouls on Syracuse. the announcers for the game said they were sad that this was was decided by the referees,, not the players. The color guy was Digger Phelps, moonlighting form his Notre Dame job.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Santifer was before my time so I’m not well informed on those teams, but one thing that sticks out in that era is we guys who put up big numbers, but didn’t win as many games as the teams before or after them.

 

[SWC75]

Santifer was before my time so I’m not well informed on those teams, but one thing that sticks out in that era is we guys who put up big numbers, but didn’t win as many games as the teams before or after them.

The "Tri-Captains" era, (Rautins, Santifer and Bruin), was similar to this one in that we were a 'donut' team. After we lost Bouie and Schayes, we had Andre Hawkins, a 6-6 power forward trying to play center, (as Guerrier, who is slimmer and more talented, basically does on offense for this team). The Tri-Captains were good but the rest of the team wasn't. JB has always said that his biggest recruiting regret was not getting Sam Perkins, who played center on the Michael Jordan UNC teams. The story goes that he was all set to come here and fill the donut hole but that Dean Smith gave his girlfriend a scholarship.

"The Hawk":

Andre Hawkins

Syracuse University basketball profile for Andre Hawkins, player for the Orangemen.

orangehoops.org

Sam:

Sam Perkins College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Sam Perkins - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

www.sports-reference.com

 

[Alsacs]

This thread will be on the radio this week and guess what JB deserves it now.

 

[SWC75]

This thread will be on the radio this week and guess what JB deserves it now.

With the same disclaimer I put in the OP and gave to 20 Plus, above.

I don't want somebody calling in and saying "Steve proved that Buddy stinks" or that "Kadary is an All-American".

 

[SUFan44]

There are a million angles to take on this, because no matter how you slice it B. Boeheim is one of the worst starting guards in Syracuse history.

But here's another: Win Share Per 40 Minutes, which takes into account all facets of the game and spits out a number that allows you to compare players and how much impact they have on winning.

The reason I have it "per 40 minutes" is to normalize the data, because not everyone has the same amount of playing time -- of course.

This year, Buddy Boeheim's Win Share Per 40 Minutes is .081. This ranks last among all Syracuse starters. For reference, Quincy Guerrier is at .211 (extremely good), or about 2.5 times more impactful on SU's winning.

Last year, Buddy Boeheim was at a .100. Also the worst among all SU starters. Bourama Sidibe was .171 and Elijah Hughes was .164. (I am leaving out Jesse Edwards' team-leading .177, based on limited sample size.)

Going back through College Basketball Reference, Buddy Boeheim is the worst SU starter since Kaleb Joseph's VERY memorable 2014-15 season (.045). Here are the other comparable players that have been below .100 as a starter at SU, through 1999-00:

Frank Howard (2018-19): .084
Frank Howard (2017-18): .088
Matthew Moyer (2017-18): .096
Fab Melo (2010-11): .087
Allen Griffin (2000-01): .083
DeShaun Williams (2000-01): .083

Just another bullet for your chamber in the fight against nepotism.

 

[Alsacs]

With the same disclaimer I put in the OP and gave to 20 Plus, above.

I don't want somebody calling in and saying "Steve proved that Buddy stinks" or that "Kadary is an All-American".

I doubt your name will be dropped but these stats are going to be used by Pat to clap back at JB after JB last Thursday went after Pat and then he nuked Kadary and analytics after the BC gams clearly with a mind to take a shot at Pat. When Pat said Kadary is the most exciting player on the team and in a while but JB had to go at Kadary to basically say hey Pat go get your shinebox.

Now these stats are going to be used to go back at JB.

 

[UnderHisOwnPower]

I arbitrarily set the minimum production for a starting player at 10.0NP/40. Like a lot of things with this formula, it seems to work out: it passes the eye or the memory test. So here is the “ten point club” (limit of one year per player):

Sherman Douglas 86-87 21.1
Eric Santifer 82-83 21.0
Pearl Washington 85-86 20.9
Rafael Addison 85-86 20.1
Stevie Thompson 88-89 19.9

Lawrence Moten 93-94 19.6
Dion Waiters 10-11 17.3 Kadary Richmond (17.5) will have this spot if he maintains this pace
Billy Edelin 02-03 16.9
Adrian Autry 93-94 16.8
Jonny Flynn 08-09 16.7

Scoop Jardine 09-10 16.5
Michael Carter-Williams 12-13 16.1
Andy Rautins 09-10 15.4
Michael Gbinije 15-16 14.9
Tyler Ennis 13-14 14.7

Greg Monroe 86-87 14.5
John Gillon 16-17 14.4
Gerry McNamara 05-06 14.2
Brandon Triche 09-10 13.9
Eric Devendorf 06-07 13.3

Michael Lloyd 94-95 13.3
Jason Hart 98-99 12.8
Tyus Battle 17-18 12.7
Kueth Duany 02-03 12.6
Earl Duncan 87-88 12.0

Matt Roe 88-89 12.0
Joe Girard 19-20 11.8 Joe is exactly where he was last year.
Alan Griffin 00-01 11.8
Lazarus Sims 95-96 11.8
DeShaun Williams 99-00 11.8
Marty Headd 80-81 11.6

Trevor Cooney 13-14 11.5
James Thues 01-02 11.2
Gene Waldron 82-83 11.1
Mike Hopkins 89-90 10.8
Frank Howard 16-17 10.8

Josh Wright 05-06 10.4
Sonny Spera 83-84 10.2
Tony Bland 98-99 10.1
Michael Brown 84-85 10.0
Buddy Boeheim 19-20 10.0
Buddy is at 9.8 this year. He was 9.9 as a freshman. it is what it is.

Checks out

 

[UnderHisOwnPower]

You shoulda seen him in the 1981 NIT final, The refs fouled out 4/5 of our starting line-up but they forgot to foul out Eric, who got us into the overtime before Nolan Richardson's Tulsa team finally won it 84-86. Eric had 29p 9r 3a 3s in that one.

Syracuse vs Tulsa March 25 1981 NIT Championship

Boxscore from the Syracuse Orangemen versus Tulsa in the 1981 NIT Championship. Tulsa would win in overtime 86-84.

orangehoops.org

Well, 3/5. Look at the fouls called: 31 on us, 16 on them. My recollection is that we had pulled ahead by 6-7 points midway through the second half when Richardson called a time out. he didn't spend any of it with the players, just talking calmly with the refs, who then called 18 of the next 19 fouls on Syracuse. the announcers for the game said they were sad that this was was decided by the referees,, not the players. The color guy was Digger Phelps, moonlighting form his Notre Dame job.

Erich led the upset over Phi Slamma Jamma, warrior

 

[NineOneSeven]

And spacing. Don't forget it.

Always appreciate all your work with these threads. It's cool to see, if nothing else. I happen to like statistics a lot.

 

[SWC75]

Erich led the upset over Phi Slamma Jamma, warrior

But I recall Tony Bruin trading dunks with Clyde Drexler on about 6 consecutive possessions. brought the house down. SU 92 Houston 87. 12/11/82. they didn't lose again until Lorenzo Charles more than three months later.

 

[SWC75]

I doubt your name will be dropped but these stats are going to be used by Pat to clap back at JB after JB last Thursday went after Pat and then he nuked Kadary and analytics after the BC gams clearly with a mind to take a shot at Pat. When Pat said Kadary is the most exciting player on the team and in a while but JB had to go at Kadary to basically say hey Pat go get your shinebox.

Now these stats are going to be used to go back at JB.

JB probably won't be any more impressed with 'Net Points' than he was with +/-.

 

[orangefog]

JB seems very defensive right now. I’m not sure turning up the heat will accomplish anything but getting him to double down.

 

[Ghost]

There are a million angles to take on this, because no matter how you slice it B. Boeheim is one of the worst starting guards in Syracuse history.

But here's another: Win Share Per 40 Minutes, which takes into account all facets of the game and spits out a number that allows you to compare players and how much impact they have on winning.

The reason I have it "per 40 minutes" is to normalize the data, because not everyone has the same amount of playing time -- of course.

This year, Buddy Boeheim's Win Share Per 40 Minutes is .081. This ranks last among all Syracuse starters. For reference, Quincy Guerrier is at .211 (extremely good), or about 2.5 times more impactful on SU's winning.

Last year, Buddy Boeheim was at a .100. Also the worst among all SU starters. Bourama Sidibe was .171 and Elijah Hughes was .164. (I am leaving out Jesse Edwards' team-leading .177, based on limited sample size.)

Going back through College Basketball Reference, Buddy Boeheim is the worst SU starter since Kaleb Joseph's VERY memorable 2014-15 season (.045). Here are the other comparable players that have been below .100 as a starter at SU, through 1999-00:

Frank Howard (2018-19): .084
Frank Howard (2017-18): .088
Matthew Moyer (2017-18): .096
Fab Melo (2010-11): .087
Allen Griffin (2000-01): .083
DeShaun Williams (2000-01): .083

Just another bullet for your chamber in the fight against nepotism.

I've adjusted for spacing:

Frank Howard (2018-19): .084
Frank Howard (2017-18): .088
Matthew Moyer (2017-18): .096
Fab Melo (2010-11): .087
Allen Griffin (2000-01): .083
DeShaun Williams (2000-01): .083


Buddy Boeheim (Always): .999

 

[two3zone]

JB probably won't be any more impressed with 'Net Points' than he was with +/-.

He was very impressed by it when it came to one game when it comes to certain players.