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Minutes played are available dating back to the 1980-81 season. I decided to record the minutes played by the starters, (as identified on pages 156-157 of the 2019-20 Media Guide), to look for any historical trends. I’m thinking that as JB has aged, he’s stuck with his top guys more than as a younger coach. I recall reading a Bill James book about baseball managers saying that there is a trend of veteran managers being more willing to go longer with their starting pitchers than younger managers. This may be a similar situation. The Media Guide sometimes lists 6 starters. In those cases I chose the five players who played the most minutes. I‘ll list them in the order of C-PF-SF-SG-PG, with rebounds determining the PF vs. SF and assists determining PG vs. SG. I’ll just use last names.
1980-81: Schayes 32.6, Rautins 25.5, Santifer 28.6, Headd 29.4, Moss 32.8 Average: 29.8 Record: 22-12
1981-82: Hawkins 19.6, Rautins 30.4, Bruin 27.9, Santifer 33.8, Waldron 29.8 Average: 28.3 Record: 16-13
1982-83: Hawkins 20.0, Rautins 31.8, Bruin 26.0, Santifer 31.5, Waldron 28.0 Average: 27.5 Record: 21-10
1983-84: Hawkins 28.3, Kerins 28.3, Addison 34.5, Waldron 26.8, Washington 34.0 Average: 30.4 Record: 23-9
1984-85: Seikaly 25.0, Hawkins 22.8, Addison 35.8, Brown 23.4, Washington 34.1 Average: 28.2 Record: 22-9
1985-86: Seikaly 27.3, Alexis 31.8, Triche 21.8, Addison 31.6, Washington 32.2 Average: 28.9 Record: 26-6 (The Media Guide lists Alexis as a guard. Bzzzt! Wrong.)
1986-87: Seikaly 27.1, Derrick Coleman 30.6, Triche 30.1, Monroe 31.0, Douglas 32.6 Average: 30.3 Record: 31-7
1987-88: Seikaly 31.0, Coleman 32.3, Thompson 30.6, Roe 24.3, Douglas 34.1 Average: 30.5 Record: 26-9
1988-89: Coleman 33.1, Owens 32.0, Thompson 33.1, Roe 25.8, Douglas 35.2 Average: 31.8 Record: 30-8
1989-90: Ellis 21.3, Coleman 35.3, Owens 36.0, Thompson 34.6, Edwards 24.0 Average: 30.2 Record: 26-7
1990-91: Ellis 29.0, Owens 38.0, Johnson 34.9, Edwards 26.2, Autry 33.2 Average: 32.3 Record: 26-6
1991-92: Siock 11.9, Johnson 37.9, Moten 33.8, Hopkins 26.9, Autry 32.7 (Conrad McRae played 29.4 minutes that year so I’ll put him in the average rather than Siock) Average: 32.1 Record: 22-10
1992-93: McRae 30.0, Wallace 29.8, Moten 32.8, Hopkins 28.2, Autry 31.8 Average: 30.5 Record: 20-9
1993-94: Hill 24.3, Wallace 32.6, Jackson 27.3, Moten 34.8, Autry 35.7 Average: 30.9 Record: 23-7
1994-95: Reafsnyder 19.1, Wallace 33.0, Jackson 29.4, Moten 35.3, Lloyd 31.9 (Hill averaged 20.3 so I’ll put him in the average) Average: 30.0 Record: 20-10
1995-96: Hill 24.3, Wallace 36.3, Burgan 34.2, Cipolla 23.5, Sims 35.3 Average: 30.7 Record: 29-9
1996-97: Hill 29.3, Burgan 33.8, Cipolla 33.4, Janulis 26.5, Hart 35.7 Average: 31.7 Record: 19-13
1997-98: Thomas 28.8, Blackwell 35.0, Burgan 36.7, Janulis 32.5, Hart 34.2 Average: 33.4 Record: 26-9
1998-99: Thomas 27.7, Blackwell 33.2, Brown 24.7, Griffin 27.2, Hart 32.4 Average: 29.0 Record: 21-12
1999-00: Thomas 32.4, Brown 26.0, Blackwell 33.7, Bland 20.9, Hart 33.8 Average: 29.4 Record: 26-6
2000-01: McNeil 15.9, Brown 35.9, Shumpert 36.4, Williams 32.8, Griffin 36.7 (Celuck played 17.4 so I’ll use him in the average) Average: 31.8 Record: 25-9
2001-02: Forth 21.7, Duany 30.8, Shumpert 36.9, Williams 35.0, Thues 31.3 Average: 31.1 Record: 23-13
2002-03: McNeil 18.8, Warrick 32.7, Anthony 36.4, Duany 27.0, McNamara 35.3 Average: 30.0 Record: 30-5
2003-04: Forth 23.2, Warrick 37.3, Pace 32.7, McNamara 36.2, Edelin 36.2 Average: 33.1 Record: 23-8
2004-05: Forth 19.5, Warrick 37.5, Pace 33.3, McCroskey 19.9, McNamara 35.6 Average: 29.2 Record: 27-7
2005-06: Watkins 29.8, Roberts 31.9, Nichols 33.3, Devendorf 27.1, McNamara 35.2 Average: 31.5 Record: 23-12
2006-07: Watkins 29.1, Roberts 28.8, Nichols 34.8, Devendorf 30.9, Wright 24.1 Average: 29.5 Record: 24-11
2007-08: Onuaku 30.5, Harris 36.1, Greene 35.8, Devendorf 34.2, Flynn 35.5 Average: 34.4 Record: 21-14
2008-09: Onuaku 26.7, Jackson 22.1, Harris 30.5, Devendorf 33.9, Flynn 37.3 (Rautins played 28.6 so I will replace Jackson with him.) Average: 31.4 Record: 28-10
2009-10: Onuaku 22.8, Jackson 26.3, Johnson 35.0, Rautins 32.5, Triche 21.3 (Joseph played 27.8 and Jardine 22.2 so I’ll use them in the average instead of Onuaku and Triche.) Average: 28.8 Record: 30-5
2010-11: Melo 9.9, Jackson 35.6, Joseph 32.4, Triche 28.8, Jardine 32.1 (Waiters averaged 16.3, more than Keita who averaged 14.6 so I’ll use Dion in the average) Average: 29.0 Record: 27-8
2011-12: Melo 25.4, Fair 26.4, Joseph 32.2, Triche 22.5, Jardine 25.2 (Waiters played 24.1 so I’ll use him in the average instead of Triche) Average: 26.7 Record: 34-3
2012-13: Coleman 12.7, Christmas 20.8, Fair 34.8, Triche 33.8, Carter-Williams 35.2 (Keita played 16.8 so I’ll use him rather than Coleman in the average) Average: 28.3 Record: 34-3
2013-14: Christmas 23.6, Grant 31.4, Fair 37.8, Cooney 32.1, Ennis 35.7 Average: 32.1 Record: 28-6
2014-15: Christmas 34.3, Roberson 28.7, Gbinije 35.0, Cooney 37.3, Joseph 27.3 Average: 32.5 Record: 18-13
2015-16: Coleman 17.5, Roberson 30.8, Richardson 34.4, Cooney 36.4, Gbinije 37.9 (Lydon played 30.3 so I’ll use him in the average over Coleman) Average: 33.4 Record: 23-14
2016-17: Thompson 17.9, Lydon 36.1, White 37.2, Battle 30.7, Gillon 29.9 (Roberson played 20.4 so I’ll use him in the average over Thompson) Average: 30.9 Record: 19-15
2017-18: Chukwu 27.2, Brissett 38.1, Dolezaj 27.9, Battle 39.0, Howard 38.4 Average: 34.1 Record: 23-14
2018-19: Chukwu 19.5, Brissett 33.0, Hughes 32.6, Battle 36.3, Howard 26.9 (Dolezaj played 21.7 so I’ll use him in the average.) Average: 30.1 Record: 20-14
2019-20: Sidibe 24.0, Dolezaj 33.3, Elijah Hughes 36.7, Boeheim 35.5, Girard 33.1 Average: 32.5 Record: 18-14
2020-21: Dolezaj 35.6, Guerrier 33.4, Griffin 32.1, Boeheim 35.7, Girard 30.9 Average: 33.5 Record: 9-5
The year-by-year averages:
29.8, 28.3, 27.5, 30.4, 28.2, 28.9, 30.3, 30.5, 31.8, 30.2, 32.3, 32.1, 30.5, 30.9, 30.0, 30.7, 31.7, 33.0, 29.0, 29.4, 31.8, 31.1, 30.0, 33.1, 29.2, 31.5, 29.5, 34.4, 31.4, 28.8, 29.0, 26.7, 28.3, 32.1, 32.5, 33.4, 30.9, 34.1, 30.1, 32.5, 33.5
There’s not a strong trend there but I do think JB has alternated people at certain possessions the last couple of decades more so than before and that pulls the averages down. Let’s look at the number of players who play at least 35.0 minutes per game:
0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 2, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 0, 0, 3, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 0, 3, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 2
That looks like computer code. It does show a greater trend to stick with a core of guys although it’s not 5 guys at once and it’s been going on for quite a while.
Let’s collate the won-loss record with the average playing time by the starters, (or pseudo-starters) and the number of players playing 35.0 minutes or more:
2011-12 34-3 0.919 26.7 0
2002-03 30-5 0.857 30.0 2
2009-10 30-5 0.857 28.8 1
1986-87 31-7 0.816 30.3 0
2013-14 28-6 0.824 32.1 2
1985-86 26-6 0.813 28.9 0
1990-91 26-6 0.813 32.3 1
1999-00 26-6 0.813 29.4 0
2004-05 27-7 0.794 29.2 2
1988-89 30-8 0.789 31.8 1
1987-88 26-7 0.788 30.5 0
2010-11 27-8 0.771 29.0 1
1993-94 23-7 0.767 30.9 1
1995-96 29-9 0.763 30.7 2
2012-13 30-10 0.750 28.3 1
1987-88 26-9 0.743 30.5 0
1997-98 26-9 0.743 33.4 2
2003-04 23-8 0.742 33.1 2
2008-09 28-10 0.737 31.4 1
2000-01 25-9 0.735 31.8 3
1983-84 23-9 0.719 30.4 0
1984-85 22-9 0.710 28.2 1
1992-93 20-9 0.690 30.5 0
1991-92 22-10 0.689 32.1 1
2006-07 24-11 0.686 29.5 0
1982-83 21-10 0.677 27.5 0
1994-95 20-10 0.667 30.0 1
2005-06 23-12 0.657 35.6 1
1980-81 22-12 0.647 29.8 0
2020-21 9-5 0.643 33.5 2
2001-02 23-13 0.639 31.1 2
1998-99 21-12 0.636 29.0 0
2015-16 23-14 0.622 33.4 2
2017-18 23-14 0.622 34.1 3
2007-08 21-14 0.600 34.4 3
1996-97 19-13 0.594 31.7 1
2018-19 20-14 0.588 30.1 1
2014-15 18-13 0.581 32.5 2
2019-20 18-14 0.563 32.5 2
2016-17 19-15 0.559 30.9 2
1981-82 16-13 0.552 28.3 0
I see a general trend of relying on the starters more on the worst teams. That could mean that the unwillingness t go to the bench makes those teams worse or it could mean that those teams were worse because the bench was worse, (which could mean that recruiting is the real issue). I tend to think the latter is the real truth. I also think that we’ve had an awful lot of good teams here and we have been spoiled as fans. But that not a bad thing to be.
1980-81: Schayes 32.6, Rautins 25.5, Santifer 28.6, Headd 29.4, Moss 32.8 Average: 29.8 Record: 22-12
1981-82: Hawkins 19.6, Rautins 30.4, Bruin 27.9, Santifer 33.8, Waldron 29.8 Average: 28.3 Record: 16-13
1982-83: Hawkins 20.0, Rautins 31.8, Bruin 26.0, Santifer 31.5, Waldron 28.0 Average: 27.5 Record: 21-10
1983-84: Hawkins 28.3, Kerins 28.3, Addison 34.5, Waldron 26.8, Washington 34.0 Average: 30.4 Record: 23-9
1984-85: Seikaly 25.0, Hawkins 22.8, Addison 35.8, Brown 23.4, Washington 34.1 Average: 28.2 Record: 22-9
1985-86: Seikaly 27.3, Alexis 31.8, Triche 21.8, Addison 31.6, Washington 32.2 Average: 28.9 Record: 26-6 (The Media Guide lists Alexis as a guard. Bzzzt! Wrong.)
1986-87: Seikaly 27.1, Derrick Coleman 30.6, Triche 30.1, Monroe 31.0, Douglas 32.6 Average: 30.3 Record: 31-7
1987-88: Seikaly 31.0, Coleman 32.3, Thompson 30.6, Roe 24.3, Douglas 34.1 Average: 30.5 Record: 26-9
1988-89: Coleman 33.1, Owens 32.0, Thompson 33.1, Roe 25.8, Douglas 35.2 Average: 31.8 Record: 30-8
1989-90: Ellis 21.3, Coleman 35.3, Owens 36.0, Thompson 34.6, Edwards 24.0 Average: 30.2 Record: 26-7
1990-91: Ellis 29.0, Owens 38.0, Johnson 34.9, Edwards 26.2, Autry 33.2 Average: 32.3 Record: 26-6
1991-92: Siock 11.9, Johnson 37.9, Moten 33.8, Hopkins 26.9, Autry 32.7 (Conrad McRae played 29.4 minutes that year so I’ll put him in the average rather than Siock) Average: 32.1 Record: 22-10
1992-93: McRae 30.0, Wallace 29.8, Moten 32.8, Hopkins 28.2, Autry 31.8 Average: 30.5 Record: 20-9
1993-94: Hill 24.3, Wallace 32.6, Jackson 27.3, Moten 34.8, Autry 35.7 Average: 30.9 Record: 23-7
1994-95: Reafsnyder 19.1, Wallace 33.0, Jackson 29.4, Moten 35.3, Lloyd 31.9 (Hill averaged 20.3 so I’ll put him in the average) Average: 30.0 Record: 20-10
1995-96: Hill 24.3, Wallace 36.3, Burgan 34.2, Cipolla 23.5, Sims 35.3 Average: 30.7 Record: 29-9
1996-97: Hill 29.3, Burgan 33.8, Cipolla 33.4, Janulis 26.5, Hart 35.7 Average: 31.7 Record: 19-13
1997-98: Thomas 28.8, Blackwell 35.0, Burgan 36.7, Janulis 32.5, Hart 34.2 Average: 33.4 Record: 26-9
1998-99: Thomas 27.7, Blackwell 33.2, Brown 24.7, Griffin 27.2, Hart 32.4 Average: 29.0 Record: 21-12
1999-00: Thomas 32.4, Brown 26.0, Blackwell 33.7, Bland 20.9, Hart 33.8 Average: 29.4 Record: 26-6
2000-01: McNeil 15.9, Brown 35.9, Shumpert 36.4, Williams 32.8, Griffin 36.7 (Celuck played 17.4 so I’ll use him in the average) Average: 31.8 Record: 25-9
2001-02: Forth 21.7, Duany 30.8, Shumpert 36.9, Williams 35.0, Thues 31.3 Average: 31.1 Record: 23-13
2002-03: McNeil 18.8, Warrick 32.7, Anthony 36.4, Duany 27.0, McNamara 35.3 Average: 30.0 Record: 30-5
2003-04: Forth 23.2, Warrick 37.3, Pace 32.7, McNamara 36.2, Edelin 36.2 Average: 33.1 Record: 23-8
2004-05: Forth 19.5, Warrick 37.5, Pace 33.3, McCroskey 19.9, McNamara 35.6 Average: 29.2 Record: 27-7
2005-06: Watkins 29.8, Roberts 31.9, Nichols 33.3, Devendorf 27.1, McNamara 35.2 Average: 31.5 Record: 23-12
2006-07: Watkins 29.1, Roberts 28.8, Nichols 34.8, Devendorf 30.9, Wright 24.1 Average: 29.5 Record: 24-11
2007-08: Onuaku 30.5, Harris 36.1, Greene 35.8, Devendorf 34.2, Flynn 35.5 Average: 34.4 Record: 21-14
2008-09: Onuaku 26.7, Jackson 22.1, Harris 30.5, Devendorf 33.9, Flynn 37.3 (Rautins played 28.6 so I will replace Jackson with him.) Average: 31.4 Record: 28-10
2009-10: Onuaku 22.8, Jackson 26.3, Johnson 35.0, Rautins 32.5, Triche 21.3 (Joseph played 27.8 and Jardine 22.2 so I’ll use them in the average instead of Onuaku and Triche.) Average: 28.8 Record: 30-5
2010-11: Melo 9.9, Jackson 35.6, Joseph 32.4, Triche 28.8, Jardine 32.1 (Waiters averaged 16.3, more than Keita who averaged 14.6 so I’ll use Dion in the average) Average: 29.0 Record: 27-8
2011-12: Melo 25.4, Fair 26.4, Joseph 32.2, Triche 22.5, Jardine 25.2 (Waiters played 24.1 so I’ll use him in the average instead of Triche) Average: 26.7 Record: 34-3
2012-13: Coleman 12.7, Christmas 20.8, Fair 34.8, Triche 33.8, Carter-Williams 35.2 (Keita played 16.8 so I’ll use him rather than Coleman in the average) Average: 28.3 Record: 34-3
2013-14: Christmas 23.6, Grant 31.4, Fair 37.8, Cooney 32.1, Ennis 35.7 Average: 32.1 Record: 28-6
2014-15: Christmas 34.3, Roberson 28.7, Gbinije 35.0, Cooney 37.3, Joseph 27.3 Average: 32.5 Record: 18-13
2015-16: Coleman 17.5, Roberson 30.8, Richardson 34.4, Cooney 36.4, Gbinije 37.9 (Lydon played 30.3 so I’ll use him in the average over Coleman) Average: 33.4 Record: 23-14
2016-17: Thompson 17.9, Lydon 36.1, White 37.2, Battle 30.7, Gillon 29.9 (Roberson played 20.4 so I’ll use him in the average over Thompson) Average: 30.9 Record: 19-15
2017-18: Chukwu 27.2, Brissett 38.1, Dolezaj 27.9, Battle 39.0, Howard 38.4 Average: 34.1 Record: 23-14
2018-19: Chukwu 19.5, Brissett 33.0, Hughes 32.6, Battle 36.3, Howard 26.9 (Dolezaj played 21.7 so I’ll use him in the average.) Average: 30.1 Record: 20-14
2019-20: Sidibe 24.0, Dolezaj 33.3, Elijah Hughes 36.7, Boeheim 35.5, Girard 33.1 Average: 32.5 Record: 18-14
2020-21: Dolezaj 35.6, Guerrier 33.4, Griffin 32.1, Boeheim 35.7, Girard 30.9 Average: 33.5 Record: 9-5
The year-by-year averages:
29.8, 28.3, 27.5, 30.4, 28.2, 28.9, 30.3, 30.5, 31.8, 30.2, 32.3, 32.1, 30.5, 30.9, 30.0, 30.7, 31.7, 33.0, 29.0, 29.4, 31.8, 31.1, 30.0, 33.1, 29.2, 31.5, 29.5, 34.4, 31.4, 28.8, 29.0, 26.7, 28.3, 32.1, 32.5, 33.4, 30.9, 34.1, 30.1, 32.5, 33.5
There’s not a strong trend there but I do think JB has alternated people at certain possessions the last couple of decades more so than before and that pulls the averages down. Let’s look at the number of players who play at least 35.0 minutes per game:
0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 2, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 0, 0, 3, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 0, 3, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 1, 2, 2
That looks like computer code. It does show a greater trend to stick with a core of guys although it’s not 5 guys at once and it’s been going on for quite a while.
Let’s collate the won-loss record with the average playing time by the starters, (or pseudo-starters) and the number of players playing 35.0 minutes or more:
2011-12 34-3 0.919 26.7 0
2002-03 30-5 0.857 30.0 2
2009-10 30-5 0.857 28.8 1
1986-87 31-7 0.816 30.3 0
2013-14 28-6 0.824 32.1 2
1985-86 26-6 0.813 28.9 0
1990-91 26-6 0.813 32.3 1
1999-00 26-6 0.813 29.4 0
2004-05 27-7 0.794 29.2 2
1988-89 30-8 0.789 31.8 1
1987-88 26-7 0.788 30.5 0
2010-11 27-8 0.771 29.0 1
1993-94 23-7 0.767 30.9 1
1995-96 29-9 0.763 30.7 2
2012-13 30-10 0.750 28.3 1
1987-88 26-9 0.743 30.5 0
1997-98 26-9 0.743 33.4 2
2003-04 23-8 0.742 33.1 2
2008-09 28-10 0.737 31.4 1
2000-01 25-9 0.735 31.8 3
1983-84 23-9 0.719 30.4 0
1984-85 22-9 0.710 28.2 1
1992-93 20-9 0.690 30.5 0
1991-92 22-10 0.689 32.1 1
2006-07 24-11 0.686 29.5 0
1982-83 21-10 0.677 27.5 0
1994-95 20-10 0.667 30.0 1
2005-06 23-12 0.657 35.6 1
1980-81 22-12 0.647 29.8 0
2020-21 9-5 0.643 33.5 2
2001-02 23-13 0.639 31.1 2
1998-99 21-12 0.636 29.0 0
2015-16 23-14 0.622 33.4 2
2017-18 23-14 0.622 34.1 3
2007-08 21-14 0.600 34.4 3
1996-97 19-13 0.594 31.7 1
2018-19 20-14 0.588 30.1 1
2014-15 18-13 0.581 32.5 2
2019-20 18-14 0.563 32.5 2
2016-17 19-15 0.559 30.9 2
1981-82 16-13 0.552 28.3 0
I see a general trend of relying on the starters more on the worst teams. That could mean that the unwillingness t go to the bench makes those teams worse or it could mean that those teams were worse because the bench was worse, (which could mean that recruiting is the real issue). I tend to think the latter is the real truth. I also think that we’ve had an awful lot of good teams here and we have been spoiled as fans. But that not a bad thing to be.
