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Message: [QUOTE="KCJax03, post: 859121, member: 356"] That's a good point you make regarding the bowl losses. When you play top 10 teams, chances are you could lose. SU did both times. What really hurt there credibility were the losses to East Carolina, a bad Minnesota team, a bad Oklahoma team, two losses to a pedestrian NC State team, etc.. Nobody ever talked about how they stomped the likes of Wisconsin or Michigan or gave Tennessee all they could handle it was always about the losses to lesser competition that people focused on. The bowl losses then just justified in their own minds the notion that they shouldn't have been there. [/QUOTE]