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Message: [QUOTE="PoppyHart, post: 5319805, member: 515"] When Bell goes off for 6-7 threes like he did last year a few times, did Red have anything to do with it? When JJ saved our bacon against YSU with 40, was that Red? The performances average out. Regression to the mean. But effort should always be there. If the players have mailed it in, or if Red can't properly teach/explain his system, then it's on him. The premise of the OP, as I understood it, is not should we be a great team right now. But rather, could other (most) coaches do more with what we have. I think that's an unequivocal yes. We should ask ourselves, if the team we faced last night was coached by Kenny Payne, how does the game go? Do we get curb stomped? Keep it close? Win? If either of the latter two options are in play, then we have our answer. [/QUOTE]