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Message: [QUOTE="cuse309, post: 2400546, member: 5119"] I have researched this, and posted it in other threads. I looked at coaches that turned around programs that were as bad as Syracuse...i.e...consistently less than 6 wins a year over the course of 10-20 years. Schools like, Baylor pre Briles, Stanford pre Harbaugh, K-State pre Snyder, Virginia Tech pre Beamer, Cuse pre Mac, Wake before Clawson, Duke before Cutcliff, Washington State pre Leach and plenty of others I'm forgetting. What I discovered was that none of the coaches won 6+ in their second year other than Leach. And in Leaches third year he took a step back and won 3, before winning 7+ every year since then. Coach Marrone was a winner in his second year as well, but also took a step back winning just 5 in year 3, before winning 8 in year 4. I didn't include him in my list of coaches to turn around a program, because we'll never know if he could have won 6+ consistently. I feel he could have, but we'll never know, so he din't exactly "turn around" the program. In almost every case a consistent record of 6+ wins isn't achieved until year 4, and some guys were able to win 6 in year 3. So far Dino is right where the majority of these other cats were in year 2. Some coaches won more gamers in year 2 than in year 1. Some won more in year 1 than in year 2. Some coaches had the same record through 2 years like Clawson with back to back 3-9 seasons. I attribute a lot of this to a lack of depth following a departure. Decommits, and transfers abound, and the new coach is left filling positions with JUCOS, grad transfers, and kids with no other P5 offers. It takes a good 3-4 years to build some quality depth. That's probably why when coaches have been successful in rebuilds as big as this one, the tangible success in wins and losses doesn't happen until years 3,4, or even 5. [/QUOTE]

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