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Message: [QUOTE="NKR1978, post: 5144530, member: 186"] I agree he left some good players for Dino to work with. Just like Dino left Wax, Gadsden, Allen and Barron. I agree it's also time to get over it with respect to the cigar, but he was not in any way screwed over by SU. He was in over his head and the fact that he hasn't been able to get a higher profile job shows that he wasn't quite cut out for the HC position. Shafer inherited a 7 win program and handed over a 3 win program. Dino turned that back into a 7 win program. Scott made the football program worse in his 3 years. Dino didn't quite live up to the early promise, but there's absolute no way we'd have had some of the highs we had with Dino, and there were highs, with Shafer. [/QUOTE]