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Message: [QUOTE="Pyle, post: 5144705, member: 137"] 1. Only coach in modern history to get only 3 years, even Grob got 4 2. Didn't have a chance to develop his own recruits 3. Was left very poor depth by previous coaching staff 4. Had to transition the team from BE to ACC, including annual games against Clemson,FSU. 5. Before he lost his QB in year 3, things looked very much improved. Not good, but improved. We were a 3OT game and 3pt loss to Pitt away from being 5-2 instead of 3-4. Lester hire looked very strong. 6. He got fired by an administration with 1 foot out the door. Essentially, every coach has been given a lot more leash than Shafer. Shafer was the victim of an AD who wanted to make a huge splash and didn't stick around long enough to feel the ripples. IMO, neither Jake or John fire Shafer after year 3. Only Coyle does and he ran away so fast, i think there's still skid marks on his street. [/QUOTE]