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Message: [QUOTE="cuseinseattle, post: 1590893, member: 2504"] I agree with just about everything you said. I think the DC2 thing is really on point and people need to remember that. The thing I would say is that I think the stuff Hop did to get back in the game is the exact same thing that JAB does. JAB talks about pressing to speed up the game and get a team moving faster and that is what I feel like Hop did so I don't think there is a difference. [/QUOTE]