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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 3381951, member: 363"] I thought Shooter shoot scratch changed the race. I think with his speed he would have at least pressed Charlatan and maybe softened it up for a closer like Basin. When a speed horse like Charlatan who has never been pressed gets an easy lead and allowed to cruise along like he did it's so damn tough to beat him. Charlatan may have very well still won but has he ever passed a horse? ever been hooked, looked another horse dead in the eye and gamely won? That is the only question I would like to see answered. He may very well have passed the test, but it looked like to me a bunch of horses running for 2nd. Not impressed with any of the horses in that first leg of the AK derby other than Charlatan [/QUOTE]