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Message: [QUOTE="SoBristol, post: 1641629, member: 485"] So, in fairness, Shafer's 2015 class produced Dungey, Fredericks, Clark, Strickland, Ealey, Sheppard, Conway. Kids who as true frosh showed something on the field. -- in several cases showed they were under-rated by the experts. Others in that class (Pickard, Adams & Henderson) should push to play early. If Babers' 2016 group does as well, SU will be a very good shape going forward. And when he has a full cycle, Babers should do even better. But at least give Shafer credit for that 2015 class that will help Babers in his progress. [/QUOTE]