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Message: [QUOTE="SoBristol, post: 1641812, member: 485"] I agree with a lot of your points, but still that 2015 class is better than you concede. Not just a handful, but a deep, strong class. I am an SU fan first and foremost, though I liked Shafer personally. I am very high on Babers' potential to bring us to bowl games. If you make that first-year contrast, consider that Marrone's decision came after the bowl game, and the preponderance of his staff followed him to the Bills. Big difference that Babers had his two OCs, his DC, his LB coach, and his DB coach on the road the instant he was announced. So, Babers had a full 2 months, with this staff -- not the same case at all -- and yes, he did a heck of a job. I like this class, particularly on the defensive side (except for DT), and his OL recruits are an upgrade. He has more of reputation as an offensive coach, and maybe he will find a QB and a star WR in the next cycle. [/QUOTE]