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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 1386012, member: 837"] This. How do I feel about the program (original question)? Awful. Where are we really? Light years away from competing for anything relevant. Can you live with that? I guess. My biggest gripe with the program has to do more with the state of college football -- if they aren't going to spend like crazy, which I agree is ludicrous, then they aren't really going to compete at a high level with any sort of consistency. *good* years will still be irrelevant to the broader world of college football. Can this program somehow get back to being borderline top 25 every couple years? Probably, but that feels a long ways away and i'm not sure how great that is since that still feels well short of winning an ACC title, let alone sniffing the playoff. I'm not trying to be debbie downer (perhaps I am that naturally), but I just think the Orange are fighting a massive uphill battle to approach true relevance in football. [/QUOTE]