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Message: [QUOTE="omniorange, post: 3045464, member: 636"] Like I said above I don't see it actually happening just that the ACC has a bb-centric option that ends the discussion this thread began if they so choose. As for the football schools in the ACC (which I will for purposes of this post classify as FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami and VT) getting solidly behind any of the realistic options for football (which I designate as WVU, UCF, and Cincy) I see as being slim to none. Status quo is far more likely, imho. As you and most on this board know, the gap between the ACC and the Greater 2 of the P5 is widening and even ACCN $$$ will more likely just get us ahead of the other two of the Lesser 3 in the P5 (on a per schools average) and as a result not make us a destination point for full membership for the only 4 schools that will increase the conference's football profile - ND, Ped State, Texas, or Oklahoma. All the efforts (assuming there are any efforts at all) will likely go into trying to get Texas in a similar deal as the Irish with the ACC. But unlike the Irish who actually had desired opponents outside of FSU, Clemson, and Miami such as Pitt, BC, and GT, the Longhorns will want to bring at least two friends with them from the state of Texas. This was the major stumbling block when the ACC and Texas briefly flirted back in 2011 prior to the ND deal even coming about a year later. I wish it truly were only about the separation of P5 from the rest since in that scenario I truly believe SU will be fine as long as it is 64-70 schools or if we get our football act together we have a 35/65 chance of surviving the cut at 48. No, the paradigm that scares me the most is paying (and getting into a bidding war for) the athletes for a private institution that is very cost conscious when it comes to athletics and lacks the alumni donor base for athletics that most of the other 65 P5 schools have. Now the nightmare situation is the possibility of adding to that environment "free" college being implemented for all public schools by the 2030s? I hope I am wrong, but I am not sure we survive the first part of the above scenario well, don't see how we survive the second on top of that as well. Sorry for the doom and gloom, but I call them as I see them. [/QUOTE]

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