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Message: [QUOTE="Zcuse, post: 756464, member: 3001"] I completely agree that we can't get ahead of ourselves. but regarding this quote "But I can think of SU QB's who weren't so good over their careers who had individual games in which they were very good." Where does this list you speak of begin and end regarding QBs who played that well in their first 2 starts? I think it's very short. I wish there was one more mid-level game (like an NC State) to get a feeling on how excited to be. We've played two teams that are fully outclassed, followed by a top 5 team. I wish there were one in the top 25-40 range in the middle of it all. How great would it be if the Penn State game was next? Regardless, I can not remember, short of McNabb and Graves in the last 20 years, two better first 2 starts... And if he comes up aces against Clemson, the optimism meter will be off the charts ... [/QUOTE]