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Message: [QUOTE="Chip, post: 1181246, member: 19"] Shafer was right to go completely crazy there on the refs. Onside kick was with 17 seconds left. When Davis returned it they let the clock run to 14 seconds. Then after the replay they put 13 seconds on the clock. If you can't advance the ball, then how does 4 seconds come off the clock? Is that another dumb runoff rule that accompanies the dumb can't advance the ball rule? I love this sport, but some of the rules are so nonsensically arbitrary. [/QUOTE]