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Message: [QUOTE="chakka3421, post: 1105910, member: 1091"] You are spot on with regards to Ishaq's father but here is my defense for he kid - and what I remember about the whole incident. Ishaq's father promised FHCDM to let Ishaq the son make this decision of SU vs ND and to keep the lines of communication open until Ishaq was ready to declare. However, Ishaq actually had doubts about ND commitment to him and the story behind the story is that Ishaq really wanted to come here to be with fellow NYC kids he knew were also coming but father wouldn't let son make any decision until ND visit. The visit by ND was orchestrated by Ishaq's father to get Ishaq to finally believe ND really wanted him as much or more than SU. ND's early morning visit was a surprise to Ishaq (but not to father). Checkmate. [/QUOTE]