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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 1460412, member: 837"] I get it -- people hate ND. But ND is one of the few institutions engaged in high level DI sports that pays any attention to academics whatsoever (and yes, that appears to include SU hoops in particular). The players are pretty consistently held to pretty rigorous academic standards -- from admissions (obviously much easier for athletes than typical students but much stricter than most of the big boys), to curriculum (all students have the same requirements re: core courses), to disciplinary actions when they falter academically or behaviorally (golson, grant, russell, williams ... a ton of guys have missed whole seasons). They also had a ton of football players traveling abroad this summer -- something I'm not aware of any university encouraging their football players to do. Bottom line, ND takes classes pretty seriously. [/QUOTE]