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Message: [QUOTE="Louie and Bouie, post: 4650316, member: 793"] I don't follow the restaurant analogy. To answer the main question, I definitely believe it is up to the fans and alumni to fund collectives. Who else is there? As for small donors, I believe they are integral for sustaining collectives over the long haul. My overall point was all the belly aching about being behind while also saying I won't donate and someone else should take care of the details. I'm not a rich man but am willing to try to help improve the product with part of my entertainment budget (of which we all have). If more fans/alumni actually do donate it could be very helpful in my opinion. We do have a very loyal base. [/QUOTE]