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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4650661, member: 237"] Don't see any manufacturing here. Just laying out the scenarios irrespective of "volume". I will tack on as budget counseling is part of my line of work for 20 years. I would instruct a counselor every time to advise a client of not buying those tickets or apparel if it is a strain on their budget. It sounds condescending in this context but it's not wrong. We all make our own decisions so we can also say piss off. [/QUOTE]