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Message: [QUOTE="FRANKIEFAN, post: 3131164, member: 6729"] Nothing more than the middle to bottom of the ACC is really good despite the lack of a #2 or #3 after Clemson so when you lose it as a program you aren’t winning. Same thing happened to us Dino’s first two years when Dungey went down that happened to Ville last year. BC was winless. GT isn’t winning a league game this year. Ville was lucky to escape BC at home last week. My guess would be the wheels come off soon. [/QUOTE]