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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 2584683, member: 668"] Yes, there's that cyclical data reference, but if the ACC was still getting the top talent year in and year out as they did in the past, the cyclical lulls don't happen, at least not as notable. SU went to 24 straight final fours because they had the best talent, year in and year out. That cycle remained constant, regardless of the losses to graduation. The best players bar none are in the northeast/east coast. As long as SU/ACC can keep the majority of these guys here, it will still generally dominate. I realize that UM and Hopkins are in the B1G, but they will always be east coasters in my view. Take UM & Hopkins (I still find Hopkins in the B1G as comical) away from the B1G, and it's nothing more than a low non P5 conference in hoops. [/QUOTE]