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Since joining the ACC we have played Virginia, which seemed like just another team before that, three times and have been beaten all three times. Now that we are to play them a fourth time with a trip to the Final Four on the line, I thought I’d take a look at the three previous contests from various angles to look for any patterns in why we lost to them and what we will have to do to beat them this time.
Scoring
3/1/14 Syracuse 56 Virginia 75
3/2/15 Syracuse 47 Virginia 59
1/24/16 Syracuse 65 Virginia 73
Total: Syracuse 168 Virginia 207
We’re getting closer! We also scored more this year than in the last two.
Quarterly Breaks
3/1/14 13-16, 15-11, 14-19, 14-29
3/2/15 8-2, 12-21, 15-22, 12-14
1/24/16 14-14, 15-23, 13-10, 23-26
Total: 35-32, 42-54, 42-51, 49-69
Virginia tends to take control of the game as it progresses but their big moves in the last two games were before halftime. The first game got away from us in the fourth ‘quarter’. We absolutely can’t afford to fall behind early against this team as we did vs. Gonzaga. Two years ago we had a wonderful defensive start but couldn’t score enough to take advantage of it.
Possessions
3/1/14 113
3/2/15 120
1/24/16 126
Total: 359
The pace has increased and we did better the faster the pace.
Two Point Field Goals
3/1/14 Syracuse 15/34 (.441) Virginia 19/38 (.500)
3/2/15 Syracuse 14/28 (.500) Virginia 18/35 (.514)
1/24/16 Syracuse 8/24 (.333) Virginia 17/26 (.654)
Total: Syracuse 37/86 (.430) Virginia 54/99 (.545)
This is obviously a problem area. Our output inside the arc has varied but theirs has been strong throughout, overwhelming this year.
Three Point Field Goals
3/1/14 Syracuse 5/22 (.227) Virginia 8/16 (.500)
3/2/15 Syracuse 4/19 (.211) Virginia 6/17 (.353)
1/24/16 Syracuse 13/30 (.433) Virginia 8/18 (.444)
Total: Syracuse 22/71 (.310) Virginia 22/51 (.431)
Overall, they’ve shot well from the three and we have shot poorly but that’s because we were putrid the first two years. We shot it well form the arc this year, which is why the game was closer than the first two. In our tournament ruin, we’ve attempted 57 treys in three games, so we aren’t as dependent on hitting three s as we were in January. But we may need to re-establish our perimeter game for this one.
Free Throws
3/1/14 Syracuse 11/14 (.786) Virginia 13/19 (.684)
3/2/15 Syracuse 7/13 (.538) Virginia 5/8 (.625)
1/24/16 Syracuse 10/15 (.667) Virginia 15/21 (.714)
Total: Syracuse 28/42 (.667) Virginia 33/48 (.688)
Not much to see here. The referees have stayed out of it for the most part and the shooting has been pretty average.
Rebounding (Offensive rebounds/ Off Rebs + the other team’s Def Rebs)
3/1/14 Syracuse 10 of 36 (.278) Virginia 13 of 32 (.406)
3/2/15 Syracuse 6 of 32 (.188) Virginia 16 of 30 (.533)
1/24/16 Syracuse 9 of 36 (.250) Virginia 4 of 23 (.174)
Total: Syracuse 25 of 104 (.240) Virginia 33 of 85 (.388)
When Virginia got only 4 offensive rebounds in this year’s game Jim Boeheim said that they don’t go for the offensive boards- they like to get back on defense. But what happened the previous two years? We’ve got to keep them off the offensive boards again and the Boss Squirrel has to defend his nuts.
Effective Offensive Rebounding (Second Chance Points/ Offensive Rebounds)
3/1/14 Syracuse10 from 10 = 1.00 Virginia 21 from 13 = 1.62
3/2/15 Syracuse 6 from 6 = 1.00 Virginia 15 from 16 = 0.94
1/24/16 Syracuse 5 from 9 = 0.56 Virginia 6 from 4 = 1.50
Total: Syracuse 21 from 25 = 0.84 Virginia 42 from 33 = 1.27
Another reason to keep them off the offensive boards: they’ve taken better advantage of offensive rebounds than we have.
Turnovers (Total – the other team’s steals = ‘unforced’ turnovers)
3/1/14 Syracuse 5 - 3 = 2 Virginia 6 - 4 = 2
3/2/15 Syracuse 13 - 9 = 4 Virginia 20 - 10 = 10
1/24/16 Syracuse 11 - 7 = 4 Virginia 13 – 7 = 6
Total: Syracuse 29 – 19 = 10 Virginia 39 – 21 = 18
We do force more turnovers than they do and they make more unforced turnovers than we do. The game with the fewest turnovers is the one they won by the biggest margin.
Points from Turnovers (Points off of turnovers / the other team’s turnovers)
3/1/14 Syracuse 7 from 6 = 1.17 Virginia 9 from 5 = 1.80
3/2/15 Syracuse 17 from 20 = 0.85 Virginia 10 from 13 = 0.77
1/24/16 Syracuse 16 from 13 = 1.23 Virginia 13 from 11 = 1.18
Total: Syracuse 40 from 39 = 1.03 Virginia 32 from 29 = 1.10
Not a lot to see here. Obviously we need not only to force turnovers but to take full advantage of them. It would help if we could beat their defense down court before they can set it up.
Manufactured Possessions (One team’s rebounds + the other team’s turnovers)
3/1/14 Syracuse 29 + 6 = 35 Virginia 39 + 5 = 44
3/2/15 Syracuse 20 + 20 = 40 Virginia 42 + 13 = 55
1/24/16 Syracuse 28 + 13 = 41 Virginia 31 + 11 = 42
Total: Syracuse 77 + 39 = 116 Virginia 112 + 29 = 141
Our edge in turnovers has not made up for the rebounding problems although we hung with them in this year’s game, which is why it was closer.
Points Breakdown (PIP= points in the paint, POP = points outside the paint, which is total points – PIP –free throws made, TREY: points from three point shots, TZ= Twilight Zone, which is POP – TREY, two point jumpers from outside the paint, FBP = fast break points)
3/1/14 Syracuse 24 PIP 21 POP 15 TREY 6 TZ 0 FBP Virginia 34 PIP 28 POP 24 TREY 6 TZ 4 FBP
3/2/15 Syracuse 26 PIP 14 POP 12 TREY 2 TZ 6 FBP Virginia 32 PIP 22 POP 18 TREY 6 TZ 6 FBP
1/24/16 Syracuse 12 PIP 43 POP 39 TREY 4 TZ 2 FBP Virginia 30 PIP 28 POP 24 TREY 4 TZ 0 FBP
Total: Syracuse 62 PIP 78 POP 66 TREY 12 TZ 8 FBP Virginia 96 PIP 78 POP 66 TREY 16 TZ 10 FBP
We get killed in the paint 62-96. The perimeter games are exactly the same. There’s not much fast-breaking.
First Chance/Second Chance Points (First chance is total points – second chance points, fast break points and free throws made)
3/1/14 Syracuse 35 FCP 10 SCP Virginia 37 FCP 21 SCP
3/2/15 Syracuse 28 FCP 6 SCP Virginia 33 FCP 15 SCP
1/24/16 Syracuse 48 FCP 5 SCP Virginia 52 FCP 6 SCP
Total: Syracuse111 FCP 21 SCP Virginia 122 FCP 42 SCP
They’ve beaten us by 11 in the initial sets but crushed us by 21 in second chance points.
Starters/Bench (Points scored by the starting line- up and by the bench.)
3/1/14 Syracuse 46/10 Virginia 55/20
3/2/15 Syracuse 45/2 Virginia 49/10
1/24/16 Syracuse 63/2 Virginia 62/11
Total: Syracuse 154/14 Virginia 166/41
Their starting line-up has out-performed ours by 12 points but their bench has swamped ours by 27 points. Hopefully Lydon and Howard will have big games.
Assists (as a percentage of field goals made)
3/1/14 Syracuse 8 of 20 = 40.0% Virginia 6 of 27 = 22.2%
3/2/15 Syracuse 12 of 18 = 66.7% Virginia 13 of 24 = 54.1%
1/24/16 Syracuse 8 of 21 = 38.1% Virginia 18 of 25 = 72.0%
Total: Syracuse 28 of 69 = 40.6% Virginia 37 of 76 = 48.7%
As usual, the winning team has a lower assist percentage, although this year’s game was a huge exception.
Fouls (Two point shots, points in paint and free throws attempted per times fouled.)
3/1/14 Syracuse 2.62, 1.85, 1.17 Virginia 2.11, 1.89, 1.06
3/2/15 Syracuse 2.33, 2.17, 1.08 Virginia 2.69, 2.46, 0.62
1/24/16 Syracuse 2.00, 1.00, 1.25 Virginia 1.44, 1.67, 1.17
Total: Syracuse 2.32, 1.68, 1.14 Virginia 2.02, 1.96, 0.98
The lower the first two figures, the more likely the opposition is more likely to be called for a foul when you attempt a two point shot or score in the paint. There’s no pattern there: They drew fouls more often on their two point shots. We drew fouls more often when we scored in the paint. We had an advantage in the Dome. They had an advantage in their place: this game will be played on a neutral court. The third number is the likelihood of going to the line when fouled. We won that battle in all three games. Overall, we didn’t get hosed by the refs.
Summary: We need to try to increase the pace of the game, force turnovers and beat them down court before they can set up their defense. We need to shoot much better, both inside the arc and outside. We need to rebound better, particularly off the offensive boards. We need to defend better in the paint, (as we have in this tournament). That’s very easy to say but very hard to do against a team that stresses defense, makes sure to get back to prevent you from beating them down court and has an excellent point guard. It would help if we use some sort of defensive pressure throughout the game. If not the “trunk monkey” press, at least a very aggressive zone with many traps. I just don’t think we can hang back and pack it inside and defeat this team.
Scoring
3/1/14 Syracuse 56 Virginia 75
3/2/15 Syracuse 47 Virginia 59
1/24/16 Syracuse 65 Virginia 73
Total: Syracuse 168 Virginia 207
We’re getting closer! We also scored more this year than in the last two.
Quarterly Breaks
3/1/14 13-16, 15-11, 14-19, 14-29
3/2/15 8-2, 12-21, 15-22, 12-14
1/24/16 14-14, 15-23, 13-10, 23-26
Total: 35-32, 42-54, 42-51, 49-69
Virginia tends to take control of the game as it progresses but their big moves in the last two games were before halftime. The first game got away from us in the fourth ‘quarter’. We absolutely can’t afford to fall behind early against this team as we did vs. Gonzaga. Two years ago we had a wonderful defensive start but couldn’t score enough to take advantage of it.
Possessions
3/1/14 113
3/2/15 120
1/24/16 126
Total: 359
The pace has increased and we did better the faster the pace.
Two Point Field Goals
3/1/14 Syracuse 15/34 (.441) Virginia 19/38 (.500)
3/2/15 Syracuse 14/28 (.500) Virginia 18/35 (.514)
1/24/16 Syracuse 8/24 (.333) Virginia 17/26 (.654)
Total: Syracuse 37/86 (.430) Virginia 54/99 (.545)
This is obviously a problem area. Our output inside the arc has varied but theirs has been strong throughout, overwhelming this year.
Three Point Field Goals
3/1/14 Syracuse 5/22 (.227) Virginia 8/16 (.500)
3/2/15 Syracuse 4/19 (.211) Virginia 6/17 (.353)
1/24/16 Syracuse 13/30 (.433) Virginia 8/18 (.444)
Total: Syracuse 22/71 (.310) Virginia 22/51 (.431)
Overall, they’ve shot well from the three and we have shot poorly but that’s because we were putrid the first two years. We shot it well form the arc this year, which is why the game was closer than the first two. In our tournament ruin, we’ve attempted 57 treys in three games, so we aren’t as dependent on hitting three s as we were in January. But we may need to re-establish our perimeter game for this one.
Free Throws
3/1/14 Syracuse 11/14 (.786) Virginia 13/19 (.684)
3/2/15 Syracuse 7/13 (.538) Virginia 5/8 (.625)
1/24/16 Syracuse 10/15 (.667) Virginia 15/21 (.714)
Total: Syracuse 28/42 (.667) Virginia 33/48 (.688)
Not much to see here. The referees have stayed out of it for the most part and the shooting has been pretty average.
Rebounding (Offensive rebounds/ Off Rebs + the other team’s Def Rebs)
3/1/14 Syracuse 10 of 36 (.278) Virginia 13 of 32 (.406)
3/2/15 Syracuse 6 of 32 (.188) Virginia 16 of 30 (.533)
1/24/16 Syracuse 9 of 36 (.250) Virginia 4 of 23 (.174)
Total: Syracuse 25 of 104 (.240) Virginia 33 of 85 (.388)
When Virginia got only 4 offensive rebounds in this year’s game Jim Boeheim said that they don’t go for the offensive boards- they like to get back on defense. But what happened the previous two years? We’ve got to keep them off the offensive boards again and the Boss Squirrel has to defend his nuts.
Effective Offensive Rebounding (Second Chance Points/ Offensive Rebounds)
3/1/14 Syracuse10 from 10 = 1.00 Virginia 21 from 13 = 1.62
3/2/15 Syracuse 6 from 6 = 1.00 Virginia 15 from 16 = 0.94
1/24/16 Syracuse 5 from 9 = 0.56 Virginia 6 from 4 = 1.50
Total: Syracuse 21 from 25 = 0.84 Virginia 42 from 33 = 1.27
Another reason to keep them off the offensive boards: they’ve taken better advantage of offensive rebounds than we have.
Turnovers (Total – the other team’s steals = ‘unforced’ turnovers)
3/1/14 Syracuse 5 - 3 = 2 Virginia 6 - 4 = 2
3/2/15 Syracuse 13 - 9 = 4 Virginia 20 - 10 = 10
1/24/16 Syracuse 11 - 7 = 4 Virginia 13 – 7 = 6
Total: Syracuse 29 – 19 = 10 Virginia 39 – 21 = 18
We do force more turnovers than they do and they make more unforced turnovers than we do. The game with the fewest turnovers is the one they won by the biggest margin.
Points from Turnovers (Points off of turnovers / the other team’s turnovers)
3/1/14 Syracuse 7 from 6 = 1.17 Virginia 9 from 5 = 1.80
3/2/15 Syracuse 17 from 20 = 0.85 Virginia 10 from 13 = 0.77
1/24/16 Syracuse 16 from 13 = 1.23 Virginia 13 from 11 = 1.18
Total: Syracuse 40 from 39 = 1.03 Virginia 32 from 29 = 1.10
Not a lot to see here. Obviously we need not only to force turnovers but to take full advantage of them. It would help if we could beat their defense down court before they can set it up.
Manufactured Possessions (One team’s rebounds + the other team’s turnovers)
3/1/14 Syracuse 29 + 6 = 35 Virginia 39 + 5 = 44
3/2/15 Syracuse 20 + 20 = 40 Virginia 42 + 13 = 55
1/24/16 Syracuse 28 + 13 = 41 Virginia 31 + 11 = 42
Total: Syracuse 77 + 39 = 116 Virginia 112 + 29 = 141
Our edge in turnovers has not made up for the rebounding problems although we hung with them in this year’s game, which is why it was closer.
Points Breakdown (PIP= points in the paint, POP = points outside the paint, which is total points – PIP –free throws made, TREY: points from three point shots, TZ= Twilight Zone, which is POP – TREY, two point jumpers from outside the paint, FBP = fast break points)
3/1/14 Syracuse 24 PIP 21 POP 15 TREY 6 TZ 0 FBP Virginia 34 PIP 28 POP 24 TREY 6 TZ 4 FBP
3/2/15 Syracuse 26 PIP 14 POP 12 TREY 2 TZ 6 FBP Virginia 32 PIP 22 POP 18 TREY 6 TZ 6 FBP
1/24/16 Syracuse 12 PIP 43 POP 39 TREY 4 TZ 2 FBP Virginia 30 PIP 28 POP 24 TREY 4 TZ 0 FBP
Total: Syracuse 62 PIP 78 POP 66 TREY 12 TZ 8 FBP Virginia 96 PIP 78 POP 66 TREY 16 TZ 10 FBP
We get killed in the paint 62-96. The perimeter games are exactly the same. There’s not much fast-breaking.
First Chance/Second Chance Points (First chance is total points – second chance points, fast break points and free throws made)
3/1/14 Syracuse 35 FCP 10 SCP Virginia 37 FCP 21 SCP
3/2/15 Syracuse 28 FCP 6 SCP Virginia 33 FCP 15 SCP
1/24/16 Syracuse 48 FCP 5 SCP Virginia 52 FCP 6 SCP
Total: Syracuse111 FCP 21 SCP Virginia 122 FCP 42 SCP
They’ve beaten us by 11 in the initial sets but crushed us by 21 in second chance points.
Starters/Bench (Points scored by the starting line- up and by the bench.)
3/1/14 Syracuse 46/10 Virginia 55/20
3/2/15 Syracuse 45/2 Virginia 49/10
1/24/16 Syracuse 63/2 Virginia 62/11
Total: Syracuse 154/14 Virginia 166/41
Their starting line-up has out-performed ours by 12 points but their bench has swamped ours by 27 points. Hopefully Lydon and Howard will have big games.
Assists (as a percentage of field goals made)
3/1/14 Syracuse 8 of 20 = 40.0% Virginia 6 of 27 = 22.2%
3/2/15 Syracuse 12 of 18 = 66.7% Virginia 13 of 24 = 54.1%
1/24/16 Syracuse 8 of 21 = 38.1% Virginia 18 of 25 = 72.0%
Total: Syracuse 28 of 69 = 40.6% Virginia 37 of 76 = 48.7%
As usual, the winning team has a lower assist percentage, although this year’s game was a huge exception.
Fouls (Two point shots, points in paint and free throws attempted per times fouled.)
3/1/14 Syracuse 2.62, 1.85, 1.17 Virginia 2.11, 1.89, 1.06
3/2/15 Syracuse 2.33, 2.17, 1.08 Virginia 2.69, 2.46, 0.62
1/24/16 Syracuse 2.00, 1.00, 1.25 Virginia 1.44, 1.67, 1.17
Total: Syracuse 2.32, 1.68, 1.14 Virginia 2.02, 1.96, 0.98
The lower the first two figures, the more likely the opposition is more likely to be called for a foul when you attempt a two point shot or score in the paint. There’s no pattern there: They drew fouls more often on their two point shots. We drew fouls more often when we scored in the paint. We had an advantage in the Dome. They had an advantage in their place: this game will be played on a neutral court. The third number is the likelihood of going to the line when fouled. We won that battle in all three games. Overall, we didn’t get hosed by the refs.
Summary: We need to try to increase the pace of the game, force turnovers and beat them down court before they can set up their defense. We need to shoot much better, both inside the arc and outside. We need to rebound better, particularly off the offensive boards. We need to defend better in the paint, (as we have in this tournament). That’s very easy to say but very hard to do against a team that stresses defense, makes sure to get back to prevent you from beating them down court and has an excellent point guard. It would help if we use some sort of defensive pressure throughout the game. If not the “trunk monkey” press, at least a very aggressive zone with many traps. I just don’t think we can hang back and pack it inside and defeat this team.